On 5/10/05, Gruss Gott wrote: > Exactly. The ACLU has also defended Rush Limbaugh and it specifically > takes on these types of cases to focus people's attention on what > Freedom of Speech is and how it should be applied legally.
??? Rush's case has nothing to do with freedom of speech. It's about invasion of privacy. > Remember - our legal system routinely frees thousands of people every > day because the evidence or process requirements don't clear > constitutional rights even though we'd all agree they're guilty > (happens all of the time in cop shows!) How does this play into free speech? > If we used Sam's logic we'd say that the court system was protecting > murderers, rapists, and thieves. The truth is that the legal system > is set up to protect the innocent and to punish only the case of > explicit crimes. Talking about things is not a crime and so these > people are protected. http://archive.salon.com/mwt/feature/1999/02/cov_03feature.html .... There is no uniform, national standard for what constitutes a "threat" -- the Supreme Court has never dealt with this question, and so various jurisdictions have developed their own definitions. The 9th Circuit Court, where this lawsuit was heard, holds that a "true" threat is made if a "reasonable" person should have known that the listener or audience would perceive the words as a threat. .... So the question is does the manual constitute a threat against the children of North America or just a tool to follow out the threat? Since the NAMBLA is anonymous and no children are named I guess it's not a threat. > In the case of the ACLU, it's protecting rights, not people or > organizations, just like judges and defense attorneys. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:156974 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
