> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vivec [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 13, 2005 7:10 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: recycling in Japan
> 
> Well....did *you* do any research?
> Do *you* know for sure that we are NOT running out of Landfill space?
> I know Trinidad is, and perhaps several other countries in the world.

Well - I'll fall on my sword and admit that the show only covered the US.
For the US, at least, I have done research.  ;^)

As far as being "sure" - no, I'm not.  Who can be "sure"?

This question is also difficult because of the definition.  Do you "run out
of" landfill space because there is no more room or because current
landfills are reaching capacity?  Is there literally no place else to put
waste or is it just becoming difficult to contain it where you would like it
to be?

The question at hand however is whether or not recycling would address this
problem.  Does the building of reclamation, sorting and repurposing centers
actually cut down on required landfill space?  Would it possibly be more
effective to use the space and resources used for recycling to extend
landfill programs?

This is a tricky subject.  For example much of the plastic recycled in the
US actually gets sent to India where the plants are major environmental
problems (the process to recycle plastic produces harmful waste products,
chemicals and many of the same by products as the production of the initial
plastics).

So the US is "cleaner" for recycling, sure - but India isn't.  It would be
better for India's ecosystem to just landfill the plastic.

Everybody knows that a huge percentage of any landfill (again, at least in
the US) is disposable diapers.  Logically using cloth diapers seems a
perfect solution.  However studies show that the processes required to clean
those diapers may be just as damaging as the disposables in the landfill.

(Personally we still used cloth diapers - intellectually I feel that the
problems facing cleaning them are easier to solve than the problem of what
to do with the landfilled diapers - but in many ways it really is a crap
shoot.  So to speak.)

> What time does P&T BS show, and what channel?

Right now the new shows are on Mondays (and Fridays and other times) on
ShowTime.  The first and second seasons (13 episodes each) are available on
DVD as well.

The third season's just started - they've covered "Circumcision", "The
Traditional Family" and "Conspiracy Theories".





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