When I was over there vacationing, I watched a hymenoplasty at 8:00pm
on a show called 'Plastic Surgery Live' so showing uncensored versions
doesn't seem that far of a stretch.

On 5/23/05, Raymond Camden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So this is a bit off topic - but dang - that is pretty cool of the BBC
> to show the uncensored version.
> 
> On 5/23/05, Jochem van Dieten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Raymond Camden wrote:
> > > Heh, for the _majority_ of us then. ;)
> > >
> > > Let me ask you this though - and the "you" can be anyone actually.
> > > Let's say your country does not have the same copyright laws. Let's
> > > say ABC says, please don't download our shows. Would you feel any
> > > moral obligation to respect their wishes?
> >
> > No. But I do feel morally obliged to watch them again in X years when they 
> > are on a Dutch channel. It is not my intention to rob them of their 
> > advertisement income, I just want good quality television.
> >
> > And apart from the whole timeshift idea there are several good technical 
> > reasons to download. First of all I hate subtitles. Most of the time the 
> > translations are bad, sometimes they are just wrong. Second there is the 
> > difference in technical format, i.e. PAN & SCAN and PAL speedup. Then there 
> > is often self censorship. (The BBC is the positive exception. They just 
> > broadcast a show twice, once censored and once way past midnight 
> > uncensored.)
> > And lastly episodes are often broadcasted in the wrong order. Latey that 
> > has been happening a lot to Alias, but the best example is Firefly: they 
> > did worse then Fox.
> >
> > Jochem
> >
> >
> >
> > Jochem
> >
> >
> 
> 

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