hmm, I may use this as the basis for some research, thank you :)
However, it's been since he could talk, although it definitely has
something it do with multitasking. With ADHD, he really can't do it.
If you ask him to oh, take the the trash out, let the dog in, and
while he is outside could he make sure the car is locked, even when he
is feeling cooperative and full of good will, the third item on the
list will definitely slip off the end of his to-do list, that fast.
The second might make it if he is really concentrating. If he is
annoyed and distracted because he is doing something when asked the
trash may make it outside but not into the trash can. His father was
the same way.

The ODD comes in when he definitely opposes this, says oh, I'll do it
at the next commercial (never happens), I hate taking the trash out,
tell Lara to do it, or whatever. It sounds like Tim's child may have a
worse case of it than he does, or perhaps the requirements of his
environment are just more rigid, I dunno.

This task avoidance may sound like norml teenage behavior, but there
is an order of magnitude in difference. When he was first diagnosed
ADHD, well-meaning strangers used to tell me that all kids are hyper
-- and so they are. Just not THIS hyper. I liked what one pediatrician
told me once -- when parents come in with suspected adhd he likes to
just leave them in an examining room with the child for a half hour or
so. If he comes back and the parent is disheveled, the room is a mess
and the children are still looking perky, he considers the case pretty
much made.

::shrug:: It looks like an interesting study though and it's possible
that some of this  may be going on as well. Nobody ever said there
could only be one issue.
However, I have found that therapy did help as it gets him into the
habit of verbalizing his frustrations (as opposed to hitting his
sister, say). Also, I gave him a big talk about how he would be
considered a man in many times and cultures and he should take
responsibility for himself, ie even if this or that is wrong in his
life, and it might well be, he still is old enough to choose how he
wants to act. He actually took that to heart quite a bit, and things
have been a lot better since...

Dana


On 5/24/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is he a teen yet?
> Has something to do with multitasking. Try giving him one chore at a time.
> http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?type=article&article_id=218392370
> 
> On 5/24/05, Dana  wrote:
> > well, it went like this, at least for us. No matter what he was asked
> > to do, he couldn't. It was too hard, necessary items were missing, it
> > was his sister's job, etc.
> >
> > He is old enough that I have been able to get him to reflect on what
> > he is doing and why, which is what I mean by a cognitive approach. It
> > could be an issue for an adult I suppose... I think we have all known
> > adults who were very creative in their excuses.
> >
> 
> 

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