mainly makes me give thanks for what I don't have to go through :) I
can't imagine a kid trying to strangle me, or what I would do about
it. But it is interesting academically, and that's the first time that
I have seen that point made about suicide. They could be right. I was
orginally reading it going so what; all of this is due to people
prescribing SSRIs instead of Ritalin because they are not controlled
drugs. But yeah, if a child were bipolar, I can see that ritalin would
be the wrong wa to go.

Dana

On 5/25/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This might be useful to some of you:
> 
> 
> Treating Children For Bipolar Disorder
> Doctors Try Powerful Drugs On Kids as Young as Age 4;
> An Overlap With ADHD
> 
> By LEILA ABBOUD
> Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
> May 25, 2005; Page D1
> 
> Child psychiatry, roiled last year by revelations that antidepressants
> could increase children's risk of suicidal behavior, now is embroiled
> in another controversy: How to treat troubled children who have
> explosive rages and dramatic mood swings that defy conventional
> diagnosis.
> 
> Doctors increasingly agree that some of these children have bipolar
> disorder. Once thought to be exceedingly rare among children, the
> problem is being diagnosed more frequently and at younger ages than
> ever before. A small but growing group of psychiatrists say they are
> treating children as young as four for bipolar disorder, prescribing
> mood-stabilizing drugs and antipsychotics that have rarely if ever
> been used on patients so young.
> 
> The number of children diagnosed as bipolar rose 26% from 2002 to
> 2004, to 19,776 cases in a database of 113 million anonymous patient
> records kept by health-care information company NDCHealth Corp.
> Increased use of antipsychotic medicines, such as Seroquel and
> Risperdal, was a big driver of pediatric drug costs last year,
> according to pharmacy-benefit manager Medco Health Solutions Inc.
> 
> A debate is brewing over how to diagnose and treat these children. In
> its classic form, bipolar disorder causes people to cycle between
> manic, euphoric highs and crushing, depressive lows that last a week
> or more. The picture in children often is muddier. A bipolar child can
> flip between a high and low several times a day. There also is
> disagreement over what constitutes the highs, with some doctors saying
> the manic phase in children often reveals itself as extreme rages,
> violence and emotional outbursts, rather than the traditional
> euphoria.
> 
> Making diagnosis even harder is the great overlap between the symptoms
> of bipolar and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. Research has
> shown that 50% to 80% of children with bipolar also have ADHD.
> 
> "We all agree that kids with classic symptoms definitely have
> bipolar," says Boris Birmaher, professor of psychiatry and director of
> a pediatric bipolar clinic at the University of Pittsburgh. "The
> controversy is over the kids with vaguer symptoms."
> 
> The debate is a key topic at the annual meeting of the American
> Psychiatric Association this week in Atlanta, where two camps are
> airing theories about which children are actually bipolar and how to
> treat them. One group, led by Joseph Biederman and Janet Wozniak of
> Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston, argues that a child
> displaying violent outbursts and rages is likely bipolar even without
> classic weeklong manic symptoms that help define the disorder in
> adults. The opposing group is led by Barbara Geller, at Washington
> University in St. Louis, who believes children should display the
> textbook grandiose feelings or elated moods. In their practices, many
> pediatric doctors who treat bipolar disorder fall somewhere in between
> and follow the treatment guidelines for adults.
> 
> The difference between the two positions isn't just academic. Children
> incorrectly diagnosed with bipolar would be given powerful
> mood-stabilizing medications they may not need, such as lithium or
> Depakote, or a so-called atypical antipsychotic such as Zyprexa or
> Risperdal -- few of which have been tested in children and all of
> which carry serious side effects. Lithium can cause thyroid problems
> and increased thirst, while the atypical antipsychotics can cause
> serious weight gain.
> 
> If a bipolar diagnosis is missed, children are likely to be put on
> antidepressants such as Zoloft, or ADHD drugs such as Adderall, both
> of which can actually push bipolar children into a manic mode. Indeed,
> some psychiatrists believe the whole flap linking antidepressants with
> a heightened risk of suicide in children may be explained by the fact
> that these children really were bipolar and not depressed.
> 
> A number of studies are exploring the diagnosis and treatment of
> bipolar children. Among the research is a large, six-year study at the
> Washington University School of Medicine and five other sites, funded
> by the National Institutes of Health, that is trying to determine
> which medications work best in bipolar patients who are six to 15
> years old. The NIH is conducting another trial that will follow 700
> children ages 6 to 17 to try to map what bipolar looks like in
> children.
> 
> Dr. Biederman's group at Massachusetts General recently presented a
> small study of 39 children ages 4 to 6, which showed that those with
> bipolar benefited from treatment with antipsychotic drugs, though with
> significant side effects including increased appetite and sedation.
> The study was funded by the nonprofit Stanley Medical Research
> Institute, the NIH and the hospital itself. Dr. Biederman's group has
> received research funds from makers of atypical antipsychotics. He and
> Dr. Wozniak also consult for some drug makers.
> 
> Ann Elliott's daughter, Chloe, was given Prozac for depression when
> she was six years old, after a two-year history of rages, giddy spells
> and self-destructive behavior, including bashing her head against a
> bathroom sink. Within a month of starting on the drug, she became mean
> and manic, says Ms. Elliott, a computer programmer from Northern
> California. Prozac was stopped. Chloe later was diagnosed as bipolar.
> Now eight, she is doing well on Trileptal, a mood stabilizer, and
> Abilify, an antipsychotic.
> 
> Such extreme behavioral problems fall under an umbrella of symptoms
> called "irritability" that Dr. Biederman and Dr. Wozniak think is
> central to bipolar in kids. These children can have three-hour rages
> touched off by something as routine as being told to brush their
> teeth. The rest of their families walk on eggshells, never knowing
> what could set the children off. Dr. Wozniak says these children are
> bipolar, even though their symptoms differ from those seen in adults.
> 
> Dr. Geller and other psychiatrists, however, point out that
> "irritability" can be found in many illnesses, like depression, autism
> and retardation. The scientific data aren't yet convincing, she says,
> to show that children who have rages, but not the conventional manic
> symptoms, actually have bipolar disorder.
> 
> In a study funded by the NIH, Dr. Geller for four years followed 86
> children whom she identified as bipolar. She identified grandiosity
> and elated mood as two key symptoms. Since the two symptoms aren't
> present in ADHD, Dr. Geller says, grandiosity and elation can
> distinguish the children with bipolar from those with ADHD. She
> concedes that current science can't give clear answers. "We need
> biological tests or markers," she says. However, genetic tests or
> brain scans are probably decades away.
> 
> Doctors say parents with such troubled children should consult with a
> child psychiatrist who specializes in bipolar disorder at a large
> academic medical center, where much of the research on bipolar
> children is done. The Child and Adolescent Bipolar Foundation Web site
> at www.bpkids.org also may be a helpful source.
> 
> Making a diagnosis can take months. It can involve interviews with the
> child, parents, teachers and siblings, and even observation of the
> child at school or at home.
> 
> It took more than eight years for doctors to diagnose Sue Cahalan's
> daughter with bipolar disorder. The girl had tantrums and violent fits
> going back to age 4. At age 8, she stole from family and neighbors. At
> 10, she tried to choke her mother in an argument over the telephone.
> At 12, Ms. Cahalan came home to find her daughter holding a butcher
> knife outside the upstairs bathroom in which she had locked her two
> younger siblings. "The psychiatrist said he was finally ready to call
> it bipolar," says Ms. Cahalan, a lawyer from the Chicago area.
> 
> Her daughter was put on lithium and her condition improved. For the
> next few years, doctors had to tinker with her medication, but Ms.
> Cahalan says her daughter slowly stabilized and was able to attend
> high school at a residential facility and will head to college next
> year. "I do wonder whether things would have been different had she
> been diagnosed earlier," she says.
> 
> Write to Leila Abboud at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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