We're going to base this on need?

Do I really need to get back into Rand, and Atlas Shrugged?

Some things never change :)

IMNSHO we need to let those people that didn't have savings for retirement
fall flat on their faces and mooch off family and friends, I bet more people
would make sure they saved :)

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 27, 2005 6:44 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Go Bush, Fabricate as much as you can....
>
>
> I have previously suggested a cutoff of $100,000. Nobody below would
> get it. There was a large outcry and I was told that I did not
> understand Social Security and besides, $100,000 isn't as much money
> as I think it is.
>
> I actually understand it just fine. I understand that Bill Gates pays
> the same as that person who felt broke at $100,000 a year, and will
> receive a check just like they do. My point is that he does not really
> need it, now does he.
>
> In a climate where the current budget limits spending on Pell grants
> and student loans -- if I understood what I saw on C-SPan yesterday;
> have not seen this anywhere in the news --- then hello, where are our
> priorities. Where is marginal spending better put, sending a kid to
> college or sending Bill Gates a check he doesn't need?
>
> I'll shut up now
> Dana
>
>
> On 5/27/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Dana wrote:
> > > I agree, it's essentially welfare for little old white ladies, many of
> > > whom are far more affluen thant the people supporting them
> > >
> >
> > The thing that ticks me off is it's the baby boomers who've put our
> > country into massive debt and are now counting on social security
> > because they've also put themselves into massive debt.  Since they've
> > been raiding social security they should bear the burden of the
> > solution.  Why should we have to pay for their policy mistakes?
> >
> > If we did switch to welfare, however, it would be some of the
> > "greatest generation" that would pay since they would totally lose
> > their benefits.  Although, as you point out, many of them can afford
> > too.
> >
> > Basically if, as of today, we said Social Security no longer exists,
> > anyone who'd like welfare has to prove that neither they nor their
> > kids can afford to pay for their retirement.  When they prove that,
> > they become eligible for welfare.  I bet that'd drop the SS deficit by
> > 50% or more.
> >
> > That doesn't touch the Medicare and Medicaid problem though, but it
> > helps move more money in that direction.
> >
> >
>
> 

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