just to stir the pot a little -

http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/time/1999/08/23/bush.html


'I've made mistakes...'
Bush says he's been drug-free for seven--no, 25 years. You got a
problem with that?
By Nancy Gibbs

August 23, 1999
Web posted at: 10:41 a.m. EDT (1441 GMT)


 
As Governor of Texas, George W. Bush has been adamant on the subject
of drugs: Stay away from them; expect to go to jail if you're caught
with them; and don't ask me whether I ever used them. While every
other Republican candidate denied ever taking illegal drugs, Bush
continued to hold to his line: "I've made mistakes in the past, and
I've learned from my mistakes." Period. It was time, he said, for
someone to put an end to the politics of personal destruction, and in
the context of the past year, when America completed its excruciating
graduate seminar in truth, character and privacy, he had history and
public sentiment on his side. In a TIME/CNN poll last week, 84% of
those surveyed didn't think youthful cocaine use should disqualify him
from being President.

But on the heels of his Iowa victory, something suddenly snapped. At
each press conference, Bush dropped another veil. First he said he
could pass the White House background check that asks appointees
whether they have used drugs in the past seven years. The next day it
was up to 25 years. Even people who thought reporters had no business
asking the questions were surprised by how Bush was answering them. By
the end of the week, Bush allies wondered why he was giving so much
oxygen to a story he needs to smother. It's not that they're suddenly
worried he could lose; they just started wondering whether he'll be
ready if he wins.

What he said
Bush's responses as they evolved through a difficult week
Somebody floats a rumor and it causes you to ask a question, and
that's the game in American politics, and I refuse to play it. That is
a game. You just fell for the trap ... [T]he people of America are
sick and tired of this kind of politics. And I'm not participating.
Austin, Texas, news conference, Wednesday morning 

I made some mistakes years ago, but I learned from my mistakes.
Baton Rouge, La., news conference, Wednesday afternoon 

As I understand it, the current [FBI] form asks the question, 'Did
somebody use drugs within the last seven years?' and I will be glad to
answer that question, and the answer is no.
Dallas Morning News, Thursday 

Not only could I pass the background check and the standards applied
to today's White House, but I could have passed the background check
.... when my dad was President of the United States, a 15-year period.
Roanoke,Va., news conference, Thursday morning 

I have told the American people all I'm going to tell them ... I don't
want to send a signal to children that whatever I may have done is
O.K.
Columbus, Ohio, news conference, Thursday afternoon 
 
It was the first big public test of Bush's instincts and of his staff,
and the results were pretty wobbly. On Wednesday morning in New
Orleans, Sam Attlesey of the Dallas Morning News pulled Bush aside to
ask him yet another drug question, this time about whether, as
President, he could meet the same qualifications as the people he
hired when it came to fbi background checks concerning illegal drug
use. Bush was at first confused, and he gave his stock answer about
not cataloging the sins of his distant past. Then he and his team
piled into the motorcade to head for a fund raiser at the Fairmont
Hotel.

But as Bush sat in his suite with his longtime friend and finance
chairman Don Evans, finance director Jack Oliver and media adviser
Mark McKinnon, he kept chewing on the question. The calls went out, to
chief strategist Karl Rove and communications director Karen Hughes.
It was one thing to refuse to talk about drugs--but this was about
White House security and double standards. "Imagine the ad our
opponents could make if we didn't answer the question," said an
adviser. "'As President, George W. Bush would maintain a double
standard when it comes to illegal drug use by White House
employees--one for him and one for everybody else.'" And so they
agreed that Bush should call Attlesey back and confirm that he would
meet all the standards himself. Case closed.

It wasn't until after the New Orleans fund-raising dinner that night,
as the entourage boarded a private jet for Roanoke, Va., that some
advisers began to feel queasy. The logical follow-up question, they
realized, would be,"What about during your father's Administration?"
It was slowly dawning on them that the hole was just getting deeper.
And that was even before checking the Dallas paper's website upon
landing and seeing the nightmare headline: BUSH SAYS HE HASN'T USED
DRUGS IN LAST SEVEN YEARS.

"Oh, my God!" groaned an adviser privately. Working by phone and
e-mail, Bush and his top advisers weighed the options into the night.
Bush decided he would have to move the boundary markers again. He'd
volunteer that he could have passed even the 15-year background check
in effect when his father was inaugurated in 1989. This would finally
lay the story to rest, they imagined, if they stretched the drug-free
zone all the way back to 1974, when he was 28. "It speaks to his life
as a mature person," explained press secretary Mindy Tucker.

The Public Reaction
A TIME/CNN poll shows surprising tolerance
If Bush did use cocaine in his 20s, should that disqualify him from
being President?

Yes 11% 
No 84% 

Should reporters be asking Bush questions about the allegation that he
used cocaine?

Yes 36% 
No 58% 

Should a candidate have to answer questions about whether he used
cocaine in the past?

  Yes No 
August 48% 49% 
June 60% 38% 

>From a telephone poll of 942 adult Americans taken for TIME/CNN on
Aug. 19 by Yankelovich Partners, Inc. Sampling error is [+/-] 3.3%
 
Having acknowledged that questions about background checks were
legitimate, Bush backed into yet another trap. When nbc's David Bloom
noted that current White House appointees must list any drug use since
their 18th birthday, Bush suddenly stopped answering and ducked back
behind his stone wall. He'd admitted making mistakes; if voters didn't
like that answer, he said, "they can go find somebody else to vote
for. That's the wonderful thing about democracy."

By the end of the day Bush aides were calling their predicament a
strategy. He has drawn the line, they said, marked out the statute of
limitations, said he hasn't used drugs in 25 years. (If anyone proves
he did use drugs after 1974, says an old Bush adviser, "he's cooked.")
Pressing these charges when there is still no evidence to support them
is just going to backfire on reporters, they argued, not without
reason in light of the growing disgust with jugular journalism. But it
was still a screwup, and in many private phone calls in and out of
Austin, Bush loyalists admitted as much--just not to Bush. A
long-distance ally says of the Austin staff, "No one's got the brains
or b____ to go in and say, 'Governor, you are really, really hurting
yourself.'"

What had some friends worried was that the story wasn't just about
cocaine. Drugs and alcohol are, in the unchoreographed dance of
candidate, reporters and voters, metaphors for something that actually
matters: whether a candidate has the gravity and judgment to be
President. This time last year, the country was practically screaming
at Clinton to tell the grand jury the truth and all would be forgiven.
Last week it wasn't just Bush's gleeful rivals who were saying he
should confess any relevant sins. Well-meaning allies were telling the
Governor the same thing and warning that the alternative was worse,
damaging Bush's principal claim to the White House--the fact that he's
not Bill Clinton.

Bush presents himself as a straight-talking Texan who does not mince
words or parse meanings, does not run late or overeat or flirt with
women not his wife.His biggest applause line is his vow to restore
dignity and honor to the office. And so it was positively painful for
friends to watch the Governor admitting that he made mistakes when he
was younger but that "I don't want to send a signal to children that
whatever I may have done is O.K." His nondenial was not as bad as
Clinton's infamous "I never broke the laws of my country," but it was
sung in the same key.

This is especially dangerous for a candidate whose spectacular early
success in raising Republican hopes and cash owes more to who he is
than to what he's done--and more specifically, to who his father is
and what the Bush brand has come to mean. For many in the Governor's
camp, the race is about restoring a moral bearing to politics, a
return to the days when people (named Bush) who were groomed for high
office brought credit and honor to it. Among Bush supporters there are
the revenge camp, which wants to take back the White House from the
Great Pretender, and the redemption camp--those who ran off with
Clinton in 1992, lived to regret it and want to make amends. Both have
placed their hopes in the son, and last week they were left shaking
their head. As a longtime adviser put it, "Why replace one
self-indulgent baby boomer with another, who's trading on his daddy's
famous name?"

At his worst moments last week, Bush looked not so much like Clinton,
who was re-elected, but like his father, who wasn't. George Sr. had an
expression that went like this: If you're so damned smart, how come
you aren't President of the United States? That cockiness surfaced
like a genetic code in his son's handling of the drug questions. Even
some aides who privately wished he would put the rumors to rest were
convinced they'd be slapped down if they suggested it. "The lasting
damage to Bush is not that now everyone thinks he did drugs," an
adviser says. "No one cares about what you did 30 years ago. The
lasting damage is the way he's reacted, showing his annoyance and
anger. He's beginning to look like a guy with very thin skin. And the
problem is that it's true--he does have very thin skin."

Happily for Bush, the only folks in an equally squirmy position were
the reporters raising the questions. There was still not a shred of
evidence of drug use. A lot of reporters wouldn't much like to answer
these questions themselves. Voters have made it clear they don't care.
In June, 60% of voters said they thought candidates should answer
questions about cocaine use, but after last week's ruckus, less than
half thought so. And when Bush argues that his answers are part of a
principled fight to clean up the process, he is appealing to a
palpable national longing.

Bush all but said the other candidates, with their instant denials and
coy cooperation with the witch-hunts, were taking the easy way out. By
answering any and all questions, they imply that nothing is out of
bounds, not even questions about rumors of drug use from an unelected
press corps that has its own skeletons. His approach was harder to
pull off: raise the bar, create a zone of privacy, don't fall into the
trap of trying to prove a negative. The problem is that Bush went
about his nondisclosure selectively. In a political age when biography
is destiny, Bush has not exactly clammed up on personal matters,
detailing over time his history as a drinker, his religious
conversion, his fidelity to his wife Laura. It amounts to saying that
when it comes to electing a President, it is relevant whether he ever
committed adultery but not whether he ever committed a felony.

It was certainly relevant to Shastan Cooke. The ninth-grader got to
meet the Governor last week in Columbus, Ohio, at the welfare training
center where he works. "Do well," the Governor said in a kind of
blessing, before telling the crowd that it was time to say "Enough is
enough." After Bush left, Cooke was asked whether it would matter if
the Governor had ever done drugs. "It would make a difference," said
the boy, who knew about what drug use had done to his neighborhood.
"That's sending a message that you can do drugs and get away with it."
And that's exactly the message Bush says he is determined to avoid.



On 6/8/05, Ken Ketsdever <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ohh Mr. Bush knows the process well or should I say Carl Rove.  Nobody
> does it better.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Medical Marijuana Poll
> 
> On 6/8/05, Ken Ketsdever wrote:
> > It was simply  one instance of multiple people making similar claims.
> > Let's see Sister-in-Law, White House, college friends...  Are they all
> > liars?
> 
> And they all claimed Kitty lied, made it all up, every one of them.
> Just like what happens everytime she writes a book. So only one liar
> here.
> 
> > Why will the White House only claim GW has been clean for the past 25
> > years.  Isn't he in his 50's?
> 
> Asked whether he would ever answer the question, the Texas governor
> replied, "It's not the only rumor. The minute you answer one question
> they float another rumor. I know how the game works, I saw it first
> hand and I ain't playing," he said adding that the political "process
> ought to be cleaned up."
> 
> 
> 
> 

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