Ben Doom wrote:
> Dude, anytime you need a bitch session, or a
> friend to back you up, or whatever, just IM
> me.  Whatt're pals for, right?

You're definately on my list. :)

> Sounds like a kind, reasoned response to me.
> I dont' see anything wrong with letting people
> know they're barking up the wrong tree.

Yea, it's a heck of a lot nicer than the response swingers get on most
poly lists... In some circles the folks who lambast them are called
"poly purists"... though in some circles the term "poly purist" refers
to a person who says "polyamory has nothing to do with sex" -- which
is not the take most of us have on it -- but of course, everything is
given to some interpretation, and polyamorists in my experience tend
to be iconoclasts who defy categorization. One of the characters in
the movie the Faculty (odd movie to reference in this context I know)
described it best I think when he was asked "what are you" and he
responded "I'm a contradiction".

>> My impression of a poly gathering so far
>> is that bunch of unfuckables are coming
>> together to prove their worth.

> So....  Why are you on this list again?
> I know *I* wouldn't fuck someone with that
> attitude, regardless of gender or physical
> assets.  So where does he get off
> insulting others?

Yeah, it's assinine, I know.

>> sexy, why stop when chemistry is right?
>> Do we want to limit ourselves by
>> definitions? Or do we want our love to
>> be  unlimited? Who can distinguish the
>> purpose of sex from the purpose  of
>> relating? How can

> Ooh, ooh!  I can!  I can relate to people
> without getting my rocks off.

You have rocks? Are they heavy? :)

>   You know, like my Dad, my friends,
> basically anyone of the male persuasion.

So that's a no to incest in your family... Ben is always full of
surprises. :)

> I can get my rocks off without relating.
> I call this "masturbation".

I call it relaxing. :)

> I particularly like getting my rocks
> off with people I relate to.

Yeah, hanging out by the pool is fun. :)

>> one relate to another without the
>> ultimate  closeness of genital contact?
>> My brain hurts from these questions
>> and too much tequilla... Cudos to all
>> of you who know me in bed and yet did
>> not form a relationship.. Next life,
>> maybe..

> Well, I like to talk.  You know, about
> things like philosohy, religion, math,
> and cartoons.  Unless we're talking about
> the mathematics of the philosophy of
> demons in hentai, genitals don't usually
> come into play here.

I take it the pun was not intended. :)

Though I like the imagery of having a serious, sober conversation
about that subject. :)

>> and although I'm not sexually attracted to _any_ of the
>> afforementioned men (no offense guys, you're just not my
>> type. :) I

> Back off guys.  He's mine.
> /me ducks and runs

/me looks for some candles and scented oils

>> No wonder so many self-identified "poly people"
>> have that knee-jerk response to swingers... <sigh>

> I think it goes beyond that.  I would guess that
> part of the problem is that so many people outside
> the poly lifestyle don't know the difference.
> People hear that you date others while having a
> serious relationship with Tiff, and assume the
> point is that you just like jumping in the sack
> with other people.  I know that's not accurate.
> You know that's not accurate.  But I bet it's
> irritating anyway.

> That's just a guess, though.  :-)

Yeah, that's about the size of it. :) His comments actually started
with the claim that most/all people have a very difficult time
distinguishing the difference between the poly community and the swing
community and then quoting statistics from somewhere. My experience is
that this is only true of a small sub-set of swingers and possibly to
some extent the sub-set of "poly people" who seem to be on safari for
the ever elusive "hot bi babes" because the girl is bi and the guy's
typically homophobic (and monogamous) but would love to have sex with
2 chicks (while ensuring that neither of them have sex with any other
guys). To me, these guys are nearly as annoying as the sub-set of
clueless swingers. Nearly...

> Hey?  Where'd this soapbox come from?  And why am I
> standing on it?

Picked it up at the local pharmacy... I know why _I_ was standing on
it... :)

Me, Ben, soap... Though I'm going to insist on calling you Victor in
spite of the conspicuous lack of facial scars (and body-armor). :)

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