Jon, just to clear something up:

Israel was founded by Jews from Israel. We had lived there for many 
thousands of years before the Romans took over our land and put us in 
exile. We are the indigenous people.

And those of us who returned from this exile to our native land were from 
Europe, not just England.

Judith


>America was founded
>by Puritans from England, Israel was founded by Jews from England. Americans
>have much in common with Israel...
>
>jon
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:20 PM
>Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
>
>
> > I didn't say anything more than Sharon's statement left the door open for
>radicals to disrupt the peace process.  He should not have
> > made the comment - that was all that I meant.
> >
> > Howie
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 7:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
> >
> >
> > > So what if he said 1 day? Would that make them blow up something every
>day?
> > > It doesn't matter. The radicals dont care what Sharon says. They only
>care
> > > that Israel still exists at all. If they cant have peace for seven days,
> > > then the people they are dealing with (Arafat et al.) don't have the
>power
> > > to control the radicals, or they are asking the radicals to bomb the
> > > Israelis. Either why make peace with your enemies? The US has always
>blown
> > > the crap out of our enemies, or placed enough military power on the
>table
> > > (Cold War, or China) that the enemy doesn't try anything.
> > >
> > > This whole situation is bringing me back to the discussion we had about
>a
> > > month ago and is validating everything I have said. Bush's whole poilicy
> > > towards Israel has been entirely wrong. He thinks that they should just
>give
> > > up the occupied areas and it will all go away, so he can score some
> > > political points in the Middle East.
> > > The problem is that the radical arabs are not going to be happy until
>Israel
> > > does not exist anymore, or until Israel teaches them another lesson like
> > > they did in '68.
> > > I've said it before, and I'll just say it again. Since Bush has been
> > > alienating the Israelis so much recently, Israel is going to take their
> > > reaction into their own hands. Israel Vs The Arabs is going to be
>extremely
> > > bloody.
> > >
> > > jon
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Howie Hamlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 5:55 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Massive blasts rock Central Jerusalem :(
> > >
> > >
> > > > And do you know why this is happening?  Because Sharon was stupid
>enough
> > > to say that there will no peace agreement until there are 7
> > > > days of peace in Israel.  So, now all the wackos are going to blow
> > > something up every 7 days to disrupt the peace process.
> > > >
> > > > The terrorists are going to do anything they can do to disrupt the
>peace
> > > process and these policies make it easier for them to plan
> > > > the disruption.
> > > >
> > > > And yes, it's very sad...
> > > >
> > > > Just my 2 cents...
> > > >
> > > > Howie
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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