Jerry Johnson wrote: > It is not a denial of service attack. Although it has the same effect.
Flooding a server with request with the intention to make that server unreachable is not a denial of service attack? > It is perfectly legitimate communication (requests to be removed) > which the emails themselves advertise and encourage. As if Joe-Jobs and vigilantism don't cause enough trouble yet. > I think it is a good idea (although I don't thikn it will do any > good) I have a better idea: create a notice & takedown procedure and disconnect spam zombies, botnets etc. on sight and mandate ISPs to follow that procedure. There are people sufficiently high in the internet foodchain that can within a few hours generate a list of a 100.000 or more IP addresses that have a trojan horse installed, are part of a botnet or a spam zombie. It is a SMOP to turn that into a few million emails to abuse departments worldwide. And if you follow a standard protocol like IODEF abuse departments can have these mails processed automagically and disconnect their users within seconds. That would work. That would kill over 80% of spam overnight. But with an estimated infection rate of over 1% that would mean that a large ISP would have to disconnect over 100.000 systems overnight. Which would result in over 100.000 calls to the helpdesk. And we can safely assume that the vast majority of the users have no idea they are part of the problem or how to resolve the problem. And while legally speaking all ISPs have the right to do this, commercially speaking this is suicide unless they all do it. And that is the fundamental issue that prevents a solution: large parts of the internet are financially dependent on those that keep the problem alive. The only way this is going to happen is if there is legislation (same notice & takedown procedure as the DMCA), or if Yahoo, Gmail, Hotmail, GMX etc. team up, create a Honeynet and coerce ISPs into following this model by refusing to accept any email from ISPs that do not disconnect at sight. Jochem ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:166118 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
