You might be right about the CIA, not sure. But if Bush can't fix it who can? 

Dana

On 7/26/05, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That is exactly what I am saying. Look at the law. The President only has 
> direct control over a very limited number of people in any of the 
> bureaucracies. The appointees can tansfer people they don't like to other 
> groups, etc., but their power is limited.
> 
> And believe me, the people inside differentiate between the President's 
> people (appointees) and their people (civil servants). Most of these folks 
> are just regular people, but the culture of the bureaucracies sometimes 
> encourages them to work against the President, and there isn't a whole lot to 
> be done about it.
> 
> Picking good appointees is a big part of success. When insiders talk about 
> Tom Ridge's failure at Homeland Security and Michael Chertoff's success, what 
> they are talking about is how Ridge didn't understand how the DC 
> bureaucracies work, and Chertoff does, and so he has been better at getting 
> them to do what needs to be done.
> 
> As for the CIA, Tenet seems like he was a disaster, but it's hard to tell 
> with a secret agency. The new head of the CIA, Porter Goss, is a guy that the 
> President picked specifically to go in and clean house. If you remember, a 
> number of very senior CIA officials resigned right after he started, and 
> others were moved to different areas. I believe that Goss' appointment is the 
> final payback, if you will, in this whole nasty fight between the White House 
> and the CIA. It's the Persident's way of saying, "Mess with the bull and you 
> get the horns,", and Porter Goss is the horns.
> 
> So the President has done basically everything he can do to reign in the CIA. 
> How much difference that makes, who knows?
> 
> > As for the CIA, are those civil service positions? Are you saying
> > that
> > the agency is wholely unaccountable to the president? I find it
> > strangely hard to believe that an executive branch agency is out of
> > the control of the president.
> >
> > Dana
> >
> > > What EXACTLY was his error? Allowing Rove to be a policy advisor?
> > Hardly an impeachable offense given that the President is allowed to
> > choose his own advisors. Just because you don't like his choice
> > doesn't make it wrong.
> 
> 

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