I don't consider liberty in same vein as land ownership, I see Liberty as something that prevents tyranny.
Liberty, is what allows to take advantage of social constructs like property ownership and voting. Due process allows us to suspend the liberty of those that seek to infringe of the rights of others. However, in some cases I think we go too far. For instance, I think convicts should be allowed to vote. Tyranny is what happens when you start selecting who gets what rights. > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:31 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Why CIA Permantly Hurt By Plame Leak > > Even if locked in a cell for 20 years, I'd rather have free will than > not. Ask Mandela if he would agree (he has said he does). > > Free will is not something that can be taken (easily). It is something > that can be given up, though, which is a shame. That is the major > problem I have with many organized religions. > > Liberty is something that can be taken at almost any time. It is also > something to fight for. > > If you are talking about liberty in the sense of movement, choices, > etc. then I agree that man is born with those rights.. But if you are > talking about liberty in the sense of voting (which is a societal > construct), land ownership, etc, then that is not a divine or natural > right but a man-given societal right. > > I think. > > On 7/28/05, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What good is one without the other? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:167016 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
