Is it voluntary in the same sense that giving your social security number to register for college is voluntary? In other words, it's voluntary but if you refuse you can't enter the country?
On 7/29/05, Jennifer Larkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In both cases that you mentioned, the chip on bridge passes is > voluntary, so is use of bluetooth. National ID cards would be > manditory. Forcing someone to be trackable is different than allowing > someone to tracked at a given bridge or given series of bridges. > > On 7/29/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Lots of states already do this on toll booths. You get a "speedpass" > > or whatever they want to call it and as you drive through it records > > that you went through, what time, and deducts from your account. > > > > Also, google the bluetooth sniper rifle. Same deal that you're > > wondering about in regards to receiver power and range. > > > > -Kevin > > > > On 7/29/05, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I remember when I posted my view on the whole National ID Card with > > > RFID topic, there were those that argued that RFID was a low power > > > technology which could not be reasonably used to track anyone. > > > > > > "U.S. security officials say they [0]will use RFID technology at > > > border posts with Canada and Mexico to track foreigners driving in and > > > out of the United States. A Department of Homeland Security spokesman > > > said wireless chips for vehicles would become mandatory at designated > > > border crossings in Canada and Mexico as of Aug." > > > > > > So, it *can* be used to track individuals. And from what I read it is > > > the power of the Receiver, not the power of the RFID chip, that is > > > important for detecting the location of the chips. No idea on how > > > powerful the receivers must be, but if they are distributed in a > > > network maybe not overly powerful. > > > > > > So, with RFID enabled National ID Cards it would be possible, even > > > very likely, that citizens locations and movements can be readily > > > checked. > > > > > > Verichip is also pushing for adoption in Britain to help with the > > > location and identification of dead bodies after a natural disaster, > > > or terrorist attack. > > > > > > Have any of you noticed, that after major terrorist attacks there are > > > suddenly moves and measures pushed through to remove even more > > > accepted civil liberties from citizens and consolidate power in the > > > hands of the government as much as possible and away from judicial > > > oversight? > > > > > > Right after 7/7 we had the Patriot Act sailing through for another 10 > > > years. > > > Now we have an american company pushing for the same RFID technology > > > that is supposed to be used in the US over in Britain ostensibly under > > > the guise of 'identifying loved ones'. > > > > > > The psychological battle continues.Tum tum Tum Ta Dum! > > > > > > "(First they came for foo, then they came for you, and because skewed > > > data about these tags seem to make our country safer we will be > > > "asked" to add them to our cars so that the government can track if > > > someone else commits a crime w/our automobile...then they came for me > > > as I was the only one left.") > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:167276 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
