> Brian  wrote:
> failure to find Bin Laden is a disaster. But the overall operation in
> Afghanistan has been an astonishing success.
> 

"Astonishing"?  I would define astonishing as:

1.) Taliban defeated/UBL captured
2.) Country clear of terrorists
3.) Gov't democratic, stable, and self-supporting
4.) Drug production near zero.
5.) Country and borders secure.
6.) No US security/military help needed.

As it is, I think the best you could say was mildly successful with
"success" defined a secure occupation.

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