I am just telling you what my gut fear is. Much of it is lack of understanding and inability to empathise. Have you ever talked to some of the wackos in these "green" groups? I had the priviledge to meet quite a few while living in Oregon. They actually drool and spit while talking they get so upset.
Look at the nutjobs who actually have blown things up or killed people. Rudolf. Do you think he is worried about the divide between church and state? No. He just wanted to kill people he saw as "evil". Gays, Child Killers. And visitors to the Olympics, since they support the others, plus it would get headlines. McVeigh. Do you think he cares about the divide between church and state? No. He hated the government as a whole, because of what he saw as a drifting away from the very limited constitutional powers of the federal government and the encroachments on personal freedom that creates. Kopp. Do you think he cares about the divide between church and state? Maybe. But that is not why he killed Slepian through his kitchen window. He killed him because he was frustrated that no one agreed with his opinion that abortion was murder, knew there was no legal way to stop him, and wanted to put "the fear of God" into abortionists everywhere. A true terrorist. The act that drove them to kill seems to me to be frustration with the lack of popular support for a fringe idea. Usually a single idea. The ELF, from what I have read and heard, is much less focused. Their cause is basically humans are bad, consumerism is bad, and needs to be stopped at all costs. For the radical right to scare me as much, they would need a more broad reaching hatred. Like if they decided they needed to kill all people who disagree with them, or burn down all churches that disagreed with them. Or burn down all gas stations and programming shops that hire non-believers. They just want to run everyone elses lives the way they see fit (note, most don't want to live THEMSELVES under the same restrictions) For example, the Black Panthers, were they around and popular today, would scare the pants off me. I am not saying that these groups are harmless, quite the contrary, and I respect the opinion of the SPLC on a lot of this, but again, deep down in my gut I fear ELF more than Operation Rescue. On 8/30/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jerry wrote: > > The right wingers and anti-abortion groups are less scary to me in > > that they only want to change SOME things, not everything, and want a > > version of America that does not differ radically from the one I want. > > Unless you're part of this group, that's quite a presumption. I > would assume that while these group are most immediately militant > about unplanned pregnancies, they most likely also support a collapse > of the divide between church and state. > > That is, unplanned pregnancies are just one part of a broad and scary > social agenda not unlike the Taliban. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:171606 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
