just asking. I need to finish somethign up. but I'll take a look, probably tomorrow. Dana
On 9/2/05, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have been watching this all day and every day this week > > http://www.wwltv.com/perl/common/video/yahooPlayer.pl > > That direct link might fail and may need to go to their site first. The > buses coming before the flood came I only saw in the Governors news > conference and honestly I do not fully believe it the more I read around > and > see no mentioning of it but the Governor of the state is the one who said > the mayor was doing that. Also they were saying buses before the hurricane > so not to imply between the hurricane and the levee breaking. > > Water being dropped, I did not see mentionings of it, I watched the video > of > helicopters doing it. Actually I take that back I think the blog from the > data center mentioned it for seeing some dropped off by truck yesterday or > today. > > Food, security, medical supplies and water I watched all make it to the > convention center this afternoon and not just a small amount it was a big > convoy. > > Have fun with your debating, I am heading home in the next few minutes. > > On 9/2/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I still see no mention of water being dropped. Nor anything about buses > > going around before the flood trying to evacuate people, was that you > > talking about that? Quick reality check: where do you get your news? > > I do see that some food has made it to the convention center, finally. > > > > Dana > > > > On 9/2/05, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Friday afternoon and a big ass convoy of supplies and troops made it > to > > > the > > > people at the convention center and most of the dome was evacuated at > > this > > > point plus shortly before this those thousands of people on the > freeway > > > that > > > the helicopters were dropping off and the bad condition people were > > being > > > relocated with helicopters got a convoy of buses(because prior it was > > hard > > > for the buses to even get there) to start pulling them out. Does no > one > > > realize the magnitude of what it takes to evacuate 10s of thousands of > > > people or to find and pull them out of "rumble", each bus holds how > many > > > people? Plus they have been using Amtrak and some flights now that the > > > airport has dried out enough to actually be used. It was estimated(as > > per > > > their local news interview with a professor earlier today) before this > > > ever > > > happened that maybe 10k people per day could be evacuated from the > city > > if > > > something like this occured yet certain seems that number was passed > > when > > > I > > > watch the local news about amount of people bused in. Levee breaks on > > > Tuesday, so what is that 72 hours to get trucks organized, get the > > trucks > > > loaded, get the troops organized as well and get them loaded and then > > > drive > > > them there and navigate the rumble to get to the destination and that > > > assumes they had not done any of those things prior bet they did or it > > > would > > > have been more than 72 hours. Prior to the convoy arriving helicopters > > > have > > > been doing their best to drop supplies as they come in. Their number > one > > > priority on the first through days was rescue people from the flooded > > > areas > > > and from watching the news I see an enormous amount of helicopters and > > > boats > > > working on that task and the buses started I believe 48 hours later. > > Plus > > > the government already dispatched three ships how many days ago, and > > > probably back when everyone probably did not grasp the magnitude of > what > > > was > > > happening. Just like most people in this world, everyone wants to > point > > a > > > damn finger at someone or something specific, christ there are people > > > saying > > > all day how this is racist and if all those people were more white > than > > > not > > > then it would have happened quicker. It is so easy to sit back and > look > > at > > > anything and think of how it could have been done better, does not > > matter > > > if > > > it is a disaster or just someone else code on a CFM application. The > > > bigger > > > the job one is looking at, usually the less of the variables they are > > > aware > > > of and fully take into account. > > > > > > I almost want to think that the Coast Guard is the only entity > involved > > in > > > this that has done a "great" job. > > > > > > On 9/2/05, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > It was probably not entirely clear to anyone, the governor, the > > > president, > > > > or the National Guard, just how bad things were on Monday. It's > > getting > > > to > > > > be Friday evening. What was your excuse again? I see no particular > > > reason > > > > why the president could not have made a phone call to the Pentagon > > after > > > > the > > > > news broke on Tuesday that the levees had broken. > > > > Dana > > > > On 9/2/05, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Matthew wrote: > > > > > > Instead of looking just at the Pres to blame for all of it, you > > > should > > > > > > research what the state government was communicating to the > > Federal > > > > Gov > > > > > > > > > > I agree completely. To be clear, this was a failure of gov't on > > every > > > > > level: city, county, state, and federal. My point is, while I can > > > > > understand that maybe the Governor is hamstrung, the President > > isn't. > > > > > He should be able to cut through all of the red tape; that's the > > > > > purpose of his executive authority. > > > > > > > > > > As to "being him", I don't need to be him to see that the NO > relief > > is > > > > > a major fek up. If I was him, I'd use executive authority to get > > > > > troops and supplies in there fast. He's not chose to do that. > > > > > > > > > > In defense of that decision, it may be because, in reviewing that > > > > > option, his people felt the actual aid would get to people just as > > > > > fast by messing with nothing. That is, yes the train started > slowly, > > > > > but it's almost up to speed. > > > > > > > > > > However, even if that's the case, he's not doing much good as a > > > > > symbolic leader either. I don't hear the, "I'm bringing the full > > > > > resources of the US government to bear ... blah blah blah" Instead > > > > > he's going to tour and has said the effort is "insufficient". > That's > > > > > not reassuring when you're starving to death. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:172442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
