At the time there were only a few studies that examined the topic. Since the focus was on RET, they were lumped into a general category (justifiable given the focus of the study). However from what I remember of the 3 or so studies that looked at REBT and marital counselling, the findings were generally positive. If you want I can go into storage and get the study details. There's a recent meta-analysis by
http://www.co-psychiatry.com/pt/re/copsych/abstract.00001504-199705000-00014.htm;jsessionid=D4gu4Wq5qb2bR7sLdb4uabsaXDj42dDOlJvvckgxiGqFc2IfIqB8!1277578804!-949856144!9001!-1 for the wrap challenged: http://www.antiwrap.com/?725 and for the completely lazy here's the abstract. It roughtly translates to in general marital counselling works. Marital therapy: definition and development. Current Opinion in Psychiatry. 10(3):247-250, May 1997. Shmueli, Avi; Clulow, Christopher Abstract: Recent publications relevant to the contemporary practice of marital therapy are reviewed.One theme emerges as being of central importance for future developments in the field: the need for specificity for defining the patient, focus and efficacy of the work. Although research findings were generally supportive of the efficacy of a wide range of marital interventions, present research limitations underlined the need for improved methodologies. Recommendations made in the literature are noted. -- I also did a fast scholar.google.com search and found about 80 studies that examined the issue, again they were fairly positive. http://scholar.google.com/scholar?as_q=effectiveness+&num=100&btnG=Search+Scholar&as_epq=marital+counselling&as_oq=&as_eq=premarital&as_occt=any&as_sauthors=&as_publication=&as_ylo=&as_yhi=&as_allsubj=all&hl=en&lr= http://www.antiwrap.com/?726 larry On 9/26/05, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Larry, I don't think anyone here doubts your prowess in Psych or statistical > analysis... > > But after readiing your paper, I did notice that none of the subjects used > for your analysis were there for couples counselling. Sure there were > various psychoses and neuroses available for analysis, yet none of these were > couples (the specific topic of this thread). I don't doubt the suceess rate > of RET or any other type of behavioral modification therapy in regards to > clinical psychosis, however, I do feel that the application of such > methodologies to "couples therapy" or relationship building are ineffective > due to the dynamic nature of relationships in general... My opninion based > on experience with clinical psychologists. I don't particularly have time to > get into this but I'll try and dig into your article a little more this > evening... > > Regards, > > Jeff > > -------- Original Message -------- > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 11:01 AM > > To: CF-Community <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: Welp > > > > Of course not. I've some experience with evaluating the effectiveness > > of psychotherapy. I normally don't like givin myself accolades but I > > did a fine bit of research with this one: > > > > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons/maret/RETstudy1.htm > > > > So I think I kind of know what I'm talking about. How technical do you > > want me to get in this case. I've written apps that do that sort of > > analysis: > > http://www.lyonsmorris.com/lyons/metaAnalysis/index.cfm > > > > larry > > > > On 9/26/05, Jeff Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Really not surprised that you think this Larry, and I'm not arguing her > > > qualifications according to your personal view of psychology... Just an > > > observation from someone that has been to several couselors (shrinks) for > > > marriage counselling and found them completely lacking in any tools > > > beyond how to "fight" without hurting your partner. They were a joke if > > > you ask me. Have you even read the book? > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > > > From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 9:39 AM > > > > To: CF-Community <[email protected]> > > > > Subject: Re: Welp > > > > > > > > Given that as far as I can see she's a fraud - no training in any form > > > > of psychotherapy, and she consistently violates most guidelines for > > > > working with people, c'mon do you really think that you can figure out > > > > what's wrong with a person much less diagnose stuff in less than 3 > > > > minutes? Frankly given her credibility, if she said it was raining > > > > outside, I'd assume that it was completely dry, and chances are I'd be > > > > correct. > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:175075 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
