> Matthew wrote:
> Innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply here?
>

Of course that always applies *legally*.   However remember that our
system is built such that "better 100 guilty men go free, than one
innocent man be denied freedom."

In practicality many guilty people go free: OJ,  Jeff Skilling, etc. 
This is because the bar to convict is so high.  But implicit in their
freedom is that they might actually be guilty.  The public has a right
to weigh in there.

As a member of the public I feel very comfortable in saying that
either Rove, Libbey, or both are guilty of outing a CIA officer with a
protective cover.

However the law says that to punish them for that crime, certain
standards must be met; standards the Whitehouse clearly knows and had
at least 12 hours they gave themselves to protect against.

Because the bar is so high, there's been a new trend with prosecutors
really starting in the 1920s: don't get them for their crimes, get
them for the cover up and/or associated crimes.  People like Al Capone
and Martha Stewart have been jailed using this method.

All that being said, what we know for a fact is that the Whitehouse
does not have it's facts straight regarding this case.  That means, at
a minimum, there's a cover up by at least one person within the
Whitehouse.

Why would Rove coverup his actions if he weren't guilty?  And if he
weren't fearing a cover-up conviction why would he volunteer to
re-appear before the prosecutor, someone appointed by his man?

He's guilty.

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