I tend to agree with your sentiment, but the times they are a-changin'. MACR 
has made some stumbling steps with Flash RIAs over the last three years. Now I 
think they are getting their act together. Flex is an easier way for developers 
to build Flash RIAs than the traditional Flash IDE, and Flex is apparently 
getting traction in the enterprise. 

Whether or not that adds up to Flash IDEs going mainstream, I don't know. 
People complain about Flex licensing, but then there is always Lazlo. 

Also, I agree with Jim in the respect that AJAX is still quite limited by 
browser compatibilities, etc. I did a search on SourceForge for AJAX the other 
day and found at least a couple dozen so-called AJAX frameworks in development. 
Many of them are tied to particular server-side languages, eg. PHP, but some 
are client-only. The common thread I saw was that many of these frameworks 
don't even have code in their SourceForge repositories. All vaporware. So I 
would say the big difference between Flash and AJAX is that Flash is here today 
and works 100%, whereas AJAX frameworks (and really to me having available 
frameworks are what matter) are still a thing in process. I know there are at 
least three out there in the CF world that I have seen with actual code 
(CFAJAX, DomAPI, and Neuromancer) but even these systems are relatively 
immature.

Rob

>The Flash RIA is practically stillborn, IMO. The only place I see people
>even talk about it is on macromedia related lists and blogs. The vast
>majority of developers I talk to that aren't part of the MM groupthink don't
>seem to even know the "RIA" term.
>
>-Kevin
>
>
>On 10/17/05, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>

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