Here is what I got: > "All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of > them came to be"
Everything that is going to happen to me is decided before I was born. Which implies that I don't have any days before birth, hence I am not yet alive. > "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb." Completely agree. Inmost being is the soul. But the "knit" and the "woven" I take more to mean the physical stuff (frame) than the metaphysical. I even could buy that it means that the physical and metaphysical is what is knit together in the womb. But that sounds more like a PROCESS to me. That at the beginning they aren't together, and that only over time do I gel into a person, which is completed at some later point in the process. Possibly at birth, but there is nothing in there to say when that knitting is finished. On 10/17/05, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Your number of days is allotted before birth. > > "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb." > I'm interpreting "innermost being" as meaning the soul, as opposed to > the liver. I could be wrong. > > The implication is that if the soul is present, then the fetus is a > "real person" prior to birth. > > But that's my rather uninformed interpretation of one particular > passage, so season liberally with salt and possibly garlic. > > --Ben > > Jerry Johnson wrote: > > Not to be obtuse, but I don't get that from that passage. > > > > Where does it mention that the soul is present, or that life exists > > before birth? > > > > To me it says that God can see you before hand, and had a hand in > > creating you, but I don't get all the rest from that passage. > > > >>It strongly implies if not outright states that the soul is present > >>before birth. On the other hand, while it says that the allotment of > >>days is done before birth, it doesn't say that the allotment must be a > >>postive number. > >>> > >>>>'For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's > >>>>womb. > >>>>I praise you that I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are > >>>>wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I > >>>>was made in the secret place. When I was woven together in the depths of > >>>>the > >>>>earth, your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were > >>>>written in your book before one of them came to be' (Psalm 139:13-16 NIV) > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase Contribute 3 from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=53 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:177259 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
