I graduated from a high school whose mascot was a "Southern Rebel" hence
the name South Spencer Rebels.

The mascots colors were red, white and blue.  The rebel also waved a
confederate flag.  Well, as you can guess, some minorities were offended
by this.

My dad still works for the school corp and I remember him telling me, a
few years ago, that due to political issues, the corp had to remove the
confederate flag completely.  I also think the rebel man was to be
retired as well.

They still retain the name "Rebels", but without the history of the
mascot.

Get over yourselves, people.  It's just a sign/flag/name/etc.

What about the people that move to Santa Claus, IN?  If they don't still
believe in Santa Claus, why don't they sue the town to change its name?
"It sends a false message to our children that Santa Claus really
exists."

M!ke 

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From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 1:37 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: a twist on the separation of church and state

Just curious as to what people think of this. The city of Las Cruces is
named for three crosses that used to stand on a hill along the Camino
Real in territorial times. Its logo has, you guessed it, three crosses
in it.
 Dana
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By ASSOCIATED PRESS
September 24, 2005

LAS CRUCES, N.M. (AP) - The city of Las Cruces' official emblem has
three crosses that a federal lawsuit alleges are unconstitutional
religious symbols on public property.

The lawsuit, filed Sept. 16 in U.S. District Court in Albuquerque, seeks
the removal of the crosses.

"The crosses serve no governmental purpose other than to disenfranchise
and discredit non-Christian citizens," said the lawsuit filed by Paul F.
Weinbaum, who lives in the Las Cruces area, and Martin J. Boyd of Las
Cruces.

Defendants include city officials, city councilors, Mayor Bill Mattiace,
District Attorney Susana Martinez, state Attorney General Patricia
Madrid and Gov. Bill Richardson.

"We have had to defend ourselves before and we're ready to do it again,"
Mattiace said.

"The crosses have a basis for being in our logo. We will hold course and
will defend that," he said.

Las Cruces is Spanish for "The Crosses."

Fermin Rubio, city attorney, said the lawsuit did not raise any new
issues since attempts were made in 2003 to prevent the city from using
the logo.

The state Highway and Transportation Department, now the Department of
Transportation, had announced that the logos would be removed from two
state highway underpasses.

But Richardson ordered the agency not to remove the logo from state
roads, saying it represents a historical event and is a point of pride
for Las Cruces residents.

Jon Goldstein, a spokesman for Richardson, said Tuesday the governor's
office had received a copy of the lawsuit, but he declined comment until
staff members and attorneys for the governor reviewed it.

The lawsuit alleges the emblem violates the First Amendment by placing
religious symbols on public property and spending public money to
promote religion.

The lawsuit also accuses the city of violating the Civil Rights Act of
1964 by requiring prospective employees to sign job applications that
include a religious symbol.

Weinbaum and Boyd accuse the city of invading the privacy of their homes
with government-sponsored proselytizing.

Weinbaum and Boyd said they have been made to feel excluded from public
participation in government activities.

"This symbol serves no governmental purpose other than to be divisive,
to alienate, and disenfranchise Weinbaum, his minor daughter and Boyd,"
the lawsuit says.

Weinbaum said he just wants the city to quit using the logo.

"The point here is that this is not for profit whatsoever," he said of
the lawsuit. "We want our First Amendment rights back, our full rights
as citizens."

The City Council never has voted on adopting the symbol for official
use, the lawsuit says.

City officials cannot provide any historical documentation to back its
claim that the crosses represent the history and people of the city, the
lawsuit alleges.

The lawsuit has been assigned to U.S. Magistrate Lourdes Martinez of Las
Cruces. No court hearings have been scheduled.

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