Ok Michael, you opened up a big can of worms here. Jim would like to "discourse" with you. See below.
> -----Original Message----- > From: Bates, Jim L. > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 9:15 AM > To: Fleischer, Beth > Subject: RE: Bizarre Question For Judith the Scholar > > Beth, > > Do you think that your friend, this Judith the scholar, would welcome a > little discourse on this subject? I have some questions for her. > > I understand the covenant thing with Abraham, once again our English word > scenario. But why didn't God have them remove skin from their nose? There > is obviously some significance here. We humans attribute all of these > glorious attributes to God, then turn around and make Him out to be some > freak.... I don't get it. If He is omnipotent, and omniscient, thus > omnipresent, this would mean that He knows all things, has always known > all things, and can never have a new thought. The thoughts of God, then, > are eternal and real. Not like a man with a blueprint of an idea that some > day would be made manifest. But God's thoughts are eternal. Then He is not > making this up as He goes along, neither is He doing things by chance. So, > the act of circumcision, as a covenant with Abraham must be part of His > eternal plan. (in my way of thinking). > > But the bigger question is: What was the significance or meaning of the > statement in Genesis, Where God tells the serpent that He was going to put > enmity between the serpent's SEED, and the Woman's SEED? What are the > Hebrew words and their meanings? What was the significance of a blood > sacrifice, wherein God accepted Abel's bloody lamb, but not Cain's more > beautiful sacrifice, the fruit of the field? > > Your interesting friend, > > Jim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fleischer, Beth > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:36 AM > To: Bates, Jim L. > Subject: FW: Bizarre Question For Judith the Scholar > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, December 17, 2001 8:21 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Bizarre Question For Judith the Scholar > > (sung to the tune of spam) > Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs > drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs > smoking drugs, shooting drugs > snorting drugs, doing drugs drugs drugs drugs... > > Circumcision is an English word to define an act that in Hebrew is called > a > bris. This literally means covenant and that's what it was all about. A > covenant between God and Avraham (and through him, his decendants). I > think > your friend has misread the place of HaSatan (literally the adversary) in > all this. There are places that say he possessed the snakes body and in > others that the snake was just his agent. In either case, the snake at > that > time had limbs, more like a snake man than anything else. It gets into a > lot of commentary and some esoteric stuff. To say that the snake had sex > with Chava (Eve is a Hellenized version which really screws up) is an > interpretation that (I believe) is very modern in origin. > > At 12:08 PM 12/17/01, you wrote: > >Judith. > >a friend of mine asked me a bizarre question about judaism and I > >thought I would pass it on to you. > > > >He would like to know the religious significance of circumcision. > > > >He is a guy who interprets the bible that the serpent in adam and eve was > >really an apelike creature created by the devil and that eve mated with > it - > >he thinks one of her kids is of this serpent and the other of adam. He > read > >a 15th century poem by a rabbi that had a line in it that said that we > >circumcise to remove the "serpents seed" - he was interested if you would > >have any information that would help him. > > > >He is a most interesting guy. > > > >Cheers, > > > >Beth Fleischer > >Certified Advanced Cold Fusion Developer > >Internet Programmer > >Alaska Native Tribal Health Consortium > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
