" Government isn't forcing the morals structure they are protecting them
from being removed. Our civilization is based on religious morals. You
want to destroy all forms of religion and the morals structure that
goes with it."

***********
I don't need to remove them. Have no desire to remove them.  I just
don't want it jammed down my throat.  If you don't believe in abortion
don't have one. If you believe in God or prayer then good for you. But
don't put "in God we Trust" on my money, or "One Nation Under God" in
the national pledge of allegiance.  Eisenhower added those two words
(Under God) as an affront to communism. As he did so he said "In this
way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's
heritage and future".  I'm sorry but even though there is a strong
religious heritage within our country, our country is based on religious
freedom.  Not a god or set of views deemed appropriate by a government.
The ability to choose to worship or not worship whoever or whatever you
deem appropriate, why must we deem ourselves "under God" or state "in
God we trust" as national slogans. Where is the freedom of religion
there?  

Far right Christian values are being crammed down our throats.  We are a
nation based on religious freedom, not religious doctrine. 

I love the hypocrisy of this administration. It is ok to lie to justify
a war. Out CIA operatives for vengeful reasons. Etc... All while
expounding higher moral values.  Bush claiming to be a moral leader is
like Stalin claiming to be a human rights leader.


-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:01 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: I'm surrounded!

Government isn't forcing the morals structure they are protecting them
from being removed. Our civilization is based on religious morals. You
want to destroy all forms of religion and the morals structure that
goes with it.
I just think we have a right to protect that, you think we have no
rights. You think anything even slightly associated with religion
needs to be destroyed.

You may think anyone that needs to follow a guide or set of rules is
stupid but that's just naive. If you weren't taught how to act or how
to behave or how to treat others we'd be no different then monkeys or
dogs.

And it's not Christian morality, any kind of morality that keeps us
civilized. I'm not Christian.
In AA they used to look to god for help but now they look to anyone
stronger than them to give them guidance.
If you remove that guidance what do you have? Not everyone needs the
guidance or the fear of god to keep them on the straight and narrow
but it does help a lot of people. Why do you have to remove it?


On 11/9/05, Gruss Gott wrote:
>
> The translation of this is:  law = morality
>
> The logic goes like this: it's the federal government's role is to
> make laws to teach morality.  You see, you are too dumb and don't know
> what's good for you - only government does.  So kneel and be dominated
> sinner!
>
> Normally people who think this way are called theocrats, but somehow
> this perversion of morality has become acceptable to right-wing
> Republicans.
>
> And who's morality do they think government should impose?  Obviously
> Christian morality.
>
> But what does that, in fact, teach our kids?  That government's role
> is to persecute others based on an arbitrary view of morality.  If
> they don't do what you do, persecute them.  Make their private
> behavior illegal.  Subjugate them.  Government knows best.
>
> I sure as hell don't want my kids thinking government knows best!
>
> Government's role is to protect liberty and guarantee personal
> freedoms - not take it away!
>



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