> RoMunn wrote:
> Democracy is a lifestyle?

Yes.  You were linking intelligence and democracy and I was saying
that that the 2 are mutually exclusive.  I know a few East Germans
that lived behind the wall and they see no huge comparative advantage
to their lives today versus their lives then.

Put another way, they'll tell you that there's positives and negatives
of both - that they're different, but that one isn't necessarily
better than another.

These are people with PhDs that travel internationally and are viewed
are leaders in their fields.  So appreciation of democracy is not a
function of intelligence.


> As Tip O'Neill said, "All politics is local."

That has no relevance here, at least not to my point.  Mr. O'Neill was
referring to the fact that Senators, in the end, are most motivated by
what will get them re-elected and that's not necessarily what's best
for the country, but what's best for their district.

I'm referring to the fact that every developed democracy in the world
has started from the ground up.  Local people forming interest groups
and lobbying local government for that new stop sign.  It bubbles up
from there to national gov't which becomes a consensus of these local
interest groups.

Iraq, in contrast, is democracy from the top down.  Citizens are being
asked to vote for a national leader before they form local interest
groups.  In other words, America is attempting to nation build a
democracy from the top down.  Historically that's not worked.

In this case, who knows?  Bush #1 did have a ground up democracies
building, but he neglected to protect those groups and Hussein
slaughtered them.

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