Now this is really over.

I have no time for collectivists, especially ones that don't even follow the
tenets of their own philosophies.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:38 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Iran
> 
> Here we go again, violence and money are the root of everything.
> 
> On 12/15/05, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Violence has been proven time and again as the thing which 
> causes new 
> > inventions,  cultural and civil growth, the rule of law.
> >
> > Violence has freed millions, saved millions, maybe billions.
> >
> > I didn't join and agree to kill just because someone tells 
> me to.  I 
> > joined a military that at it's highest levels is run by our elected 
> > representatives.
> >
> > I'm sorry we don't live in some communal state of blissful anarchy 
> > (oxymoron).
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 4:11 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: Iran
> > >
> > > When someone joins the military, they agree to kill just because 
> > > someone tells them to. I have no respect for that. I don't 
> > > particularly care that you have issues with it, it speaks volumes 
> > > that you would resort to violence though.
> > >
> > > On 12/15/05, Kevin Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I have a hard time believing that you have no respect for
> > > the men and
> > > > women who protect your right to make completely boneheaded
> > > statements like that.
> > > > I don't care if you're a pacifist and despise war, I'm fine
> > > with that.
> > > > I may argue with you about it, but it's your right.  I however 
> > > > have serious issues with you saying you don't respect 
> the military 
> > > > that protects your freedom to hold that opinion. My brother is
> > > in the Navy
> > > > and I respect what he does immensely. In fact, if someone
> > > said that to
> > > > my face that they don't respect the military, I'd stomp 
> on theirs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:52 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: Re: Iran
> > > >
> > > > I am a pacifist, I despise war, and I have no respect for
> > > the military.
> > > >
> > > > On 12/15/05, Tony <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > wayne,
> > > > >
> > > > > do you accept that *SOME* civilian casualities are 
> part of war.
> > > > > not, do you support the war, and accept that.  but at its
> > > base, do
> > > > > you accept that?  just wondering.  i hate to accept it.
> > > but i think
> > > > > its a fact of war.
> > > > >
> > > > > tw
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/15/05, Wayne Putterill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > Innocent people are being killed by us right now, thats the 
> > > > > > problem I
> > > > have.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/15/05, Sam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > > > Did you miss the whole food for oil scandal? How 
> many people 
> > > > > > > have died over the thirteen years Saddam was building 
> > > > > > > palaces and paying off governments with the money 
> meant for 
> > > > > > > food and medicine? We're building hospitals and 
> schools and
> > > water treatment plants.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 12/15/05, Wayne Putterill  wrote:
> > > > > > > > What's the difference between dropping a bomb and
> > > doing what
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > mention?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > When children die because the hospitals have been
> > > destroyed,
> > > > > > > > or
> > > > there
> > > > > > > > is no clean water, or food, or power etc. what is
> > > the difference?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is it OK because nobody looked into their eyes and
> > > pulled a trigger?
> > > > > > > > Death is death, it doesn't matter if a soldier 
> slits the 
> > > > > > > > throat of a baby, if it was crushed beneath a
> > > bombed house or
> > > > > > > > it died because of disease - it is still another
> > > innocent dead because of the war.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
> 

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