> Sam wrote:
> Wayne said:  When children die because the hospitals have been
> destroyed, or there is no clean water, or food, or power etc. what is
> the difference?
>
> So I was saying the hospitals weren't helping anyone because the money
> we sent was not going for food or medicine.

The is no possible way you can logically argue that less people
would've died here than there.  The ONLY thing you can say is this:

1.) We screwed up when we invaded (it was based on bad intelligence).
2.) Despite being in-country for years, we haven't been able to secure Iraq yet.
3.) Progress is being made if you judge it by the formation and
control of democratic governement.  Maybe it could be done better
differently, but slow progress is better than a dictatorship.

So, the hope is, that decades from now the Iraqis will be much better
off than had we not invaded.

Unsolicited advice: You'd be much more effective if you got out of
weeds and made some simple and effective big pictures points.

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