You know I am against the patriot act.  I thought I always made that clear.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 1:42 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: US Propganda against Chavez stretches into Media
> 
> wait a minute... Tim, what's your position on the Patriot Act?
> 
> On 1/6/06, Tim Heald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > This is ok with you, at the expense of freedom of speech, at the 
> > expense of liberty?
> >
> > Jesus.  You're going to be a citizen of the United States?
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:12 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: US Propganda against Chavez stretches into Media
> > >
> > > Given that the country has a higher literacy rate, fewer 
> poor people 
> > > with better health care, and a considerably lower infant 
> death rate 
> > > than any other country in the region, I would say that that is a 
> > > fairly good definition of national success. BTW that infant death 
> > > rate is considerably lower than the US according to the WHO.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > > On 1/6/06, G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > Perhaps he respects Castro for standing up to US 
> Aggression and 
> > > > > still being able to reduce poverty, provide excellent
> > > healthcare and
> > > > > all the other things he has managed to do in the face of US 
> > > > > pressure.Maybe THAT is what he respects.
> > > >
> > > > I can't believe you are touting the success of Castro's Cuba.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So because you assume that based on US or Western Society
> > > mankind is
> > > > > Greedy, therefore the only solution is a system that 
> > > > > rewards,exemplifies and promotes Greed above all else?
> > > >
> > > > Um, in economics? Yes. The simple fact that you 
> apparently fail to 
> > > > grasp, is that capitalism works, and socialism doesn't.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What about the social services offered in Canada? Or
> > > Western Germany
> > > > > before the fall of the wall?
> > > >
> > > > What about them?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 
> 
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