for what it is worth - Gel was very rah rah pro-Bush at one point. That changed, I believe, before you joined the list.
On 1/6/06, Charlie Griefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gel: > > With all due respect, I'll be the first to admit that, while you may > never have explicitly said that you hate Americans, I've certainly > inferred from the tone of many of your posts that you do hate > Americans (or America itself). If I've been wrong in that, I > apologize. > > But even as you explicitly state that you don't hate Americans, you > follow that up with a blanket statement that begins with "Here we go > again". > > If your "Here we go again" was aimed at one specific poster (or a > handful of specific posters), that's all well and good and I'll just > shut up and go about my Friday evening. But it seems to me that > you're suggesting that all Americans are going to automatically leap > to the conclusion that just because you disagree, you're unpatriotic > or an America Hater. > > You're entitled to your opinion, as is everyone (regardless of > nationality, ethnic background, religion, beer preference, etc). But > you make it sound as if the fact that you disagree with any given > American policy (or the opinion of any American citizen) means that > ALL American citizens are going to label you. > > That's simply not the case. > > Hell, 90% of the people on this list (more specifically, 90% of the > American people on this list) have disagreed publically with the > policies of our current President, or the policies of many high-level > decision-makers, or just disagreed with the opinions of other > Americans who have expressed an opinion. > > You're not being labelled based on any specific opinion that you've expressed. > > -IF- you're being labelled, it's likely because a large majority of > your posts are critical of America or American policies or the way > American authorities handle a given situation (the bipolar guy getting > shot in the airport leaps to mind). > > If every now and then you'd maybe say that you agree with something > that's related to America...maybe people wouldn't be so quick to think > of you as anti-American. But (and I speak for only myself here), I > don't recall seeing anything even remotely "pro-American" come from > you. So yes...I would have to say that if you (or anyone else) asked > me whether or not I thought you hated Americans, I'd respond with yes. > > But it's not based on any one opinion that you've stated. It's based > on everything that I can recall you posting here. > > And again...if I'm incorrect in that, I sincerely apologize. > > Charlie > > > On 1/6/06, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Also, please note I never said I hated Americans. And I don't Hate > > Americans. > > > > Here we go again, painting those that disagree as either Unpatriotic > > if they are American, or "American Haters" if they are foreigners. > > > > On 1/6/06, Ray Champagne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sorry, man, but I think that hating from afar because of what you hear > > > and read is as bad as racial profiling. > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:191013 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
