that makes quite a bit of sense. 

Dana

>I agree Ben, this is the exact point that everyone I talk to is upset about.
>
>Do I find the difference between "reasonable belief" and "probable
>cause" the sticking point. No. I can see the difference between
>intelligence gathering and prosecution. If they are willing to give up
>the ability to prosecute for specific national security needs, I am OK
>with that.
>
>It is the enforced secrecy that bothers me. It is currently illegal to
>tell us they if they ARE breaking the law. The same problem with I
>have with the Patriot Act. There is no oversight (There supposedly is
>oversight, but by the same people enforcing the act, which is exactly
>the same to me as no oversight).
>
>If there was some assurance that SOMEBODY was watching them, somebody
>independent, I would feel better.
>
>I want to know that if someone does abuse the system, we will hear
>about it. And importantly, we will hear about it before the next
>election cycle.
>
>I propose we pass a law like FISA that allows the NSA to do what they
>say they want, to listen in on al Qaeda, only on
>domestic/international calls, if the have reasonable belief, but have
>oversight every six months (and weekly in the 2 months before federal
>elections), with an unclassified report issued by a panel of judges
>AND legislators (with clearance of course) showing the number of
>intercepts, reviewing the reasonableness, the al Qaedaness of the
>intercept, and a simple score on how useful the intercept was. The
>report should clearly list any violations (domestic/domestic calls,
>reasons other than al Qaeda). And also a detailed classified report
>that goes into real details. And the ability of this panel to
>recommend prosecution for any violations.
>
>That would satisfy me, giving them the tools they need, but preserving
>some accountability and oversight.
>
>On 1/26/06, Ben Doom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> further down the slippery slope.

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