So, haven't we made the world a better place for the Iraqi people?  Aren't
they more free because of our actions? 


--
Tim Heald
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
703-300-3911
-----Original Message-----
From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 1:00 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack

I'm not anti american, I'm anti anyone who makes this world a worse place to
be.

I'm not bashing america, my own country had a large part in this disgusting
affair.

As for calling me antisemetic, anyone who knows me would laugh out loud at
that - particularly my jewish friends.

I would lay down my life for something I believed in, but I grew out of
playing with guns when I started wearing long trousers.

On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> There were no weapons found, there is no was to ever prove they did or 
> did not exist at this point.
>
> BTW Why is that "spin"?  Are all of my statements true?
>
> How about you stop with America bashing bullshit?  And the 
> anti-Semitic bullshit that you lefties like to spout.  It makes me 
> sick.  How about instead of sitting around bitching you actually stand 
> for something, with not only your principles, but your life on the line?
>
>
> --
> Tim Heald
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 703-300-3911
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 11:51 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack
>
> how about you actually deal with the point being discussed instead of 
> spouting another load of spin.
>
> On 3/17/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about the violations of the cease fire?
> >
> > How about the UN resolutions allowing us to use force to enforce the 
> > sanctions that were being violated?
> >
> > How about the attacks against American Aircraft?
> >
> > How about the fact that oil is actually of vital importance to the 
> > national security of the United States?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Tim Heald
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 703-300-3911
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Wayne Putterill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, March 17, 2006 3:16 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent Attack
> >
> > That's what blows all the "this means we were right to go in"
> > arguments apart. We had ways of finding out if he did have WMD and 
> > the UK and US governments didn't let the people involved finish their
work.
> >
> > On 3/17/06, Larry C. Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just a reminder the people on the ground, the UN inspectors who 
> > > were in Iraq, and the IAEA always said that there were no WMD's.
> > >
> > > On 3/16/06, Nick McClure <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > When you have your own guys, plus other countries all agreeing 
> > > > that they have them, then the risk factor seems within the bounds.
> > > >
> > > > If you try it and you turn out wrong, then people second guess, 
> > > > which is good if it makes us better, but when the point is just 
> > > > to belittle then it doesn't help anybody.
> > > >
> > > > Were mistakes made? Clearly. However I don't think they could 
> > > > have done this any other way.
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 7:13 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Re: Saddam Pretended to have Weapons to prevent 
> > > > > Attack
> > > > >
> > > > > > Dino wrote:
> > > > > > Israel only attacked Iraq when they were building a nuclear 
> > > > > > reactor
> > > > for
> > > > > the
> > > > > > express purpose of gaining nukes to attack Israel.
> > > > >
> > > > > Combine that with what gMoney said and you have:
> > > > >
> > > > > 1.) If we thought there was a threat, why didn't we just bomb 
> > > > > the shit out of it w/o having to go in?  Lame Answer: mobile labs.
> > > > > Apparently REALLY mobile.  So mobile they don't exist.  Which 
> > > > > brings
> > us to ...
> > > > >
> > > > > 2.) Why don't we know how reliable our intelligence is?  From 
> > > > > the beginning the whole everybody-thought-blah-blah-blah 
> > > > > strikes me as absolutely moronic.  It's called risk management 
> > > > > - I know they offer classes at HBS on the topic.  Bush must've
skipped them.
> > > > > Whenever you have intelligence you have a reliability factor 
> > > > > on it.  Either ours was low and we went in anyway or we 
> > > > > haven't learned shit about intelligence in the last 50 years.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
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