On 3/28/06, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >1. do you fully accept the bible as the word of God, straight up.
> >Divine intervention between God and the authors who were possessed by
> >the Holy Spirit and then wrote about it?
> Yes but what Jews, especially orthodox Jews hold, may be far from what you 
> think the Bible says. We hold by both the written law (Torah) and the oral 
> law (Mishnah) and feel that one without the other makes the whole point moot. 
> In addition, trying to take the Torah from Hebrew to other languages, 
> especially through the perilous path that the 'modern' english bible goes 
> through (hebrew->greek->latin->old english->middle english->modern english) 
> loses the meaning and point.
>
> >2. do you fully accept the idea of creation?
> Yes, but again not as you may think it. On one hand there's really no care 
> what came before man as Torah history starts with man. Anything before is 
> really glossed over. On the other hand is the recognition that not only was 
> it not 6 days as we know them but the concept of time didn't even exist until 
> the 4th day so any attempt to put the world's creation into 6 actual 24 hour 
> days is rather pointless. There is an esoteric understanding of the creation 
> process but that's far from the question here.
>
> As is usual when asking a question to a Jew, the answer is "yes, but". :)
>
> Oh BTW, the laws that the Torah states for Jews are not the laws for 
> non-Jews. We've got 613 and you've got 7. You do 7 and you get to the same 
> heaven as we do. God, you've got it easy.

But they have to confess once a week.
We don't eat one day out of the year and all is forgiven :)


--
Charlie Griefer

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and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch
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Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed."

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