That is why I changed the name At 05:20 PM 1/25/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Is it possible to let this subject go and have the list go back to what >it is here for? > >-----Original Message----- >From: Gary McNeel, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 5:20 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide > >I disagree with you. Jefferson for one new we needed to keep them >separated. >The reasons are, for now, to many to list here. I do agree with it >though >and support a complete separation. > >You can pray in school. People pray quietly all the time. It is class >prayer >that is not allowed, the open practicing of religion in a formal way. >What >you are saying is that you want to be able to show other people that you >pray. Somehow, I doubt God really cares much how you pray to Him. > >Let me ask you, if I came into class every day and said a Satanic chant, >maybe every hour, do you think most people would mind? You bet they >would. >Parents would freak out. And what if I was the teacher and came in and >wore >my Krishna getup? Handed out flowers and flyers asking for money? Where >DO >you separate it? > >Why does everyone think the past was so nice with prayer in school and >"family values". Let's see, family values in white dominated south in >1860s - 1970s, with prayer in school and all, meant discriminating >against >blacks. In many cases killing them. Oops, well some people doing it >anyway. >Being a black mail in Alabama in the 50s was probably not the greatest >thing >in the world. Hey, what do you know, that is the same as today. Nothing >ever >really changes, people discriminate how they will, through all of time. >Only >now, in your face 24x7 repeat news never let's it end and >sensationalizing >everything. Ugh. > >-Gary > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mark Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 2:54 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide > > > > > > I just really think the whole separation of church and state has been >so > > misconstrued it's not even funny. Not that this is all encompassing, >but > > the book, "Birth of the Nation", gave some good insight. Way back in >the > > day, churches were funded by the local government. It just so happened > > that Protestants were the dominating religion of the day. Therefore >the > > Catholics and the Jews got screwed and had a hard time practicing >their > > faith. It was determined that it wasn't fair to fund just the > > Protestants, so funding was taken away and everybody was free to > > practice their religion of choice. Thus, the separation of church and > > state - nothing more, nothing less. > > > > For some reason, separation of church and state has morphed into, you > > can't pray in school, you can hardly mention God (and I guess you >can't > > mention Satan now either), without the ACLU breathing down your neck. > > The ACLU needs to find better things to do with their time. > > > > Mark > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:37 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Enron executive commits suicide > > > > > > I also hearby declare that Jesus is also banned from the list. > > > > Since I'm not God, a Dinowitz, or the government my declaration >doesn't > > really matter, but I imagine if I was one of the above a lot of people > > would > > be pretty pissed. > > That's the entire point... > > > > jon > > .Playing Devil's Advocate for a more open minded cf-community ;-) > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2002 3:05 PM > > Subject: RE: Enron executive commits suicide > > > > > > > OMG!!! What is this world coming to?????? I do understand that >people > > > have rights and everything, but this is a little to much. > > > > > > Hear Ye! Hear Ye! I hereby declare that Satan, the master of > > eeeviiiilll > > > and the tempter of all things bad (including Wendy's #3 Biggie >Size), > > is > > > banned from the cf-community list and all cf related list for that > > > matter!!!!! > > > > > > Hail Mary, full of grace. Yada, yada, yada... > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
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