I agree with most, not all but most of that.

BTW, not everyone that served is an infantryman, as anyone in combat arms
jobs will attest :)

It's a very different job. 


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From: So Kenfused [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 12:17 PM
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Subject: Re: here we go...

Actually you said "Missiles don't change governments, Infantryman change
governments."

I think we need a change.  The violent overthrowing of our government is not
the solution.

I see infantryman as an anology the common citizen. Missiles and bombs are
the facade of power, much like the corporations and financial elite. The
real power lies in the people, be it an infantryman who must go inch by inch
and block by block to secure the bombed remanants of a city or the citizens
who when fed up enough with an out of control government launch a grassroots
campaign to elect people who acre more about the people than big business,
power and money.

Regardless of how out of whack our system seems to be, (lies, deception,
bribes, kick backs, PACs, corporations and the financial elite seemingly in
charge. The bottom line is this is a country for and by the people (the
average citizen, the infantrymen) and it's time the people take back the
power. Enough of the self serving right wing elitists running the show.
Let's get a grassroots campaign to put the people back in charge. 

I didn't think much of Clinton when he was in power, I liked Bush Sr. Junior
however, is a lunatic, I keep thinking back to his declaration of being a
Wartime President.  Excuse me mr. bush, but that was by choice,
mis-information, lies and deception, not neccessity. And now it looks like
he is ramping up the rhetoric to start another war.

I served my country and I have a tremendous respect for those who have and
do server their country.  But they are all just infantrymen.  They all do
what they are told. It is the responsibility the govenrment to use their
service in a responsible manner.  mr. bush has failed his nation, his
citizens and his military. 

I would rather see mobilization of people, citizens, and infantrymen to
legally oust bush and his cronies than to see a mobilization of our military
resources to open up yet another front, another war of choice rather than
neccessity. 

Bush has single handedly place our nation and our citizens in more danger
than any other president in history.  He has polarized the world into you
are with us or against us and galvanized an enemy that for the most part did
not exist 5 years ago. Sure there were small groups of terrorists who
dispised the U.S., the West adn all it stood for, but has the number of
groups and their minions increased or diminished since we invaded Iraq? I
would say the former. bush has created a winner take all mentally that will
result in loses for all, with no hope of anyone gaining a victory. 

The world was with us after 9/11, it doesn't appear to me they are now.  We
have lost the international good will towards the elimination of terrorism
because we misused our power and lied to the world to justify it.

I am proud to be an American, but I am also ashamed of my government and
ashamed of how easily it has led the American people astray. however, I am
proud to be citizen in a country where we have the rights, abilities and
proceedures to oust our leaders without violence.  I just hope people are
getting fed up enough to make a change.

I am starting to believe the two most dangerous concepts in the world are
religion and Nationalism. 



>Wow, that's great, so you advocate t he violent overthrow of the 
>legally elected government?
>
>Good job bro.  Enjoy your time on the "list".
>
>Tell carnivore I aid hi. 
>
>
>Then send the infantry to the White House
>
>>We going the Clinton route to diplomacy now?
>>
>>Missiles and air strikes don't change governments man.
>>
>>Infantryman change governments. 
>>



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