I haven't been following much of this thread but I have to say one thing. Your right to exercise your religion is based on it not infringing on the rights of others. A teacher is paid to teach. Period, end of story. If I had to put up with a missionary in public school I'd have walked out. Of course, a student can't do that. It's a captive audience. Your religion is your own. Don't force it on others. At least that's what my religion says.
> I'm not saying what I believe. I'm asking the question: Why isn't this an > infringement of the teacher's rights to exercise his or her religion freely. > By preventing the teacher from that exercise you are asking the teacher to > disobey God (per the scenario I drafted). Should the government be able to > force a person to disobey God? If so, what is the constitutional argument > for such as case when the First Amendment says clearly that we have a right > to freely follow our religious beliefs as we see fit? > > H. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:01 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > So, as a teacher I should be able to teach the children whatever religion I > choose in the classroom? > > Its the teachers job to present the cirriculum, not to preach religion. The > teacher is wrong in two ways: > 1) not performing duties in their job description (presenting cirriculum) > and > 2) infringing on the religious rights of the students > > > Do you really believe a teacher should be allowed to attempt to convert > students to their religion as part of teaching practices? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:38 PM > Subject: RE: Religious Freedom > > > > Which would be a violation of the teacher's First Amendment rights to > > exercise religious freedom. > > > > H. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:05 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:59 PM > > Subject: RE: Religious Freedom > > > > > > > What if, as a public school teacher, you felt called (an vocation), as > in > > > commanded by God, to be both a public school teacher and evangelist. > That > > if > > > you were not a public school teacher, and that if you did not read from > > the > > > Bible during class, you would be going against God's will? > > > > > > > Then you should be fired. > > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:40 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > > > > > > > >So, if you are a teacher, or a mayor or other government official, are > > you > > > >not sinning if you do not use every opportunity to spread the Gospel. > As > > a > > > >teacher, aren't you commanded by God to spread the Gospel to your > pupils? > > > > > > But as a teacher, you are paid to teach what the school system has > > provided > > > for you to teach, if you don't like it, go teach at a church school. > > > > > > >This, of course, is an extreme position that is terribly politically > > > >incorrect, but I'm sort of playing the devil's advocate here. > > > > > > > >Isn't it a violation of your "free exercise" rights if you are > prohibited > > > >from preaching, praying and proselytizing no matter what your position > in > > > >the government? > > > > > > No, as your position is voluntary, usually by both parties, you are > > allowed > > > to leave, or be fired if you are not doing your job, and if your job > says > > > don't teach religion in your class, then you can't. If you have a > problem > > > with this, find another job. > > > > > > >Another question: If the government makes a law that says, "Thou shalt > > not > > > >pray in public," isn't the government showing a preference for > > irreligion, > > > >if not secular humanism. Even a secularist is taking a religious > position > > > >based on faith (it takes as much faith not to believe as to believe). > So, > > > >when the government says, "no prayer," it's really "establishing > > religion" > > > >by establishing irreligion as the religion of choice for the > government. > > > >True or not? > > > I would agree with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Macromedia ColdFusion 5 Training from the Source Step by Step ColdFusion http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201758474/houseoffusion Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
