I certainly don't need you to educate me on US history bro. I know about the abolitionist movement, and heir actions, and it has nothing to do with what we are talking about. We were talking about the constitutional ability of the federal government to conscript citizens into the military in order to fight wars. You are wrong, no matter how you look at it. It's built into the constitution. The framers of that document made their beliefs well known, while they were in the middle of a war far worse than any of the bull shit negativity you have had in your life. These men put their families, their careers, fortunes and freedoms on the line to do the right thing.
James Madison - "A well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained in arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country. " Samuel Adams - Urging his fellow patriots/militia in New England to ready themselves, stated: "...to provide themselves without delay, arms and ammunition, get well instructed in the military art, embody themselves, and prepare a complete set of rules that they may be ready to defend themselves against despotism". George Mason - "What is the Militia? It consists of the whole people." Richard Henry Lee - "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." ..."A militia, when properly formed, are in fact the people themselves. " Tell me how I'm fucking ignorant and don't know what the fuck I'm talking about again. Also, don't try to paint me as a racist, and fuck up this debate by throwing in slavery related bull shit, it's completely unrelated to the topic at hand. This isn't a magic show, and I'm not going to fall for looking at your other hand and let you slide. Don't forget, I am an active anti-racist, and by active I mean ongoing. I work for this shit. I know where I was when the NSM cocksuckers tried to march on DC. With boots and braces holmes, and it wasn't at home watching it on TV, and there wasn't a police line between us and them. Cause that shit don't roll in tha D to tha C. All you do is show out as a weak willed coward, that doesn't stand for anything by saying what you do below. -- Timothy Heald Analyst, Architect, Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: 202-228-8372 C: 703-300-3911 -----Original Message----- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 12:19 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Boot camp for all Americans > You couldn't defend a piece of shit on the sidewalk, much less > something as important as your civil rights, the borders of this > country, and the lives of it's citizens. > Wake the fuck up. There are very few beliefs I would die to uphold. This is one of them. My ability to defend it is moot - it doesn't matter whether I'm able to defend that belief or not, that is the strength of my conviction. If John Brown had planned the Harper's Ferry raid over this subject, I might have joined him. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Brown_%28abolitionist%29 > -- > Timothy Heald > Analyst, Architect, Developer > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > W: 202-228-8372 > C: 703-300-3911 > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 11:23 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Boot camp for all Americans >> was this supps to be an apology or gasoline? > Only thing I'll apologize for is being rash. > I believed every word. > I never said I wanted to defend your rights, I only said that I don't > want him defending mine. s. isaac dealey 434.293.6201 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:204101 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
