What about the kids who read the koran, did they get to discuss their book in your "community" school as well?
--Beth, Pseudo usenet cop Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy) Anchorage, Alaska ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2002 9:37 AM Subject: RE: Religious Freedom > No it doesn't. Well, it depends on what part of the country you're in. > It seems that "people" around bigger cities are more snobish and always > watching for the next "person" to violate their rights. I've always > lived in small towns where a community was a community and we would talk > about religion, the bible, etc. in the public school. Nobody ever had a > problem. I don't know of anybody that was so emotionally and mentally > scared because, God forbid, they were exposed to a little religion > (Christianity). > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 9:40 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > the teacher is welcome to exercise his or her religion as long as it > doesnt' > interfere with the rights of others - in this case, it does. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 12:52 PM > Subject: RE: Religious Freedom > > > > I'm not saying what I believe. I'm asking the question: Why isn't this > an > > infringement of the teacher's rights to exercise his or her religion > freely. > > By preventing the teacher from that exercise you are asking the > teacher to > > disobey God (per the scenario I drafted). Should the government be > able to > > force a person to disobey God? If so, what is the constitutional > argument > > for such as case when the First Amendment says clearly that we have a > right > > to freely follow our religious beliefs as we see fit? > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2002 1:01 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > > > > So, as a teacher I should be able to teach the children whatever > religion > I > > choose in the classroom? > > > > Its the teachers job to present the cirriculum, not to preach > religion. > The > > teacher is wrong in two ways: > > 1) not performing duties in their job description (presenting > cirriculum) > > and > > 2) infringing on the religious rights of the students > > > > > > Do you really believe a teacher should be allowed to attempt to > convert > > students to their religion as part of teaching practices? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 10:38 PM > > Subject: RE: Religious Freedom > > > > > > > Which would be a violation of the teacher's First Amendment rights > to > > > exercise religious freedom. > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 9:05 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:59 PM > > > Subject: RE: Religious Freedom > > > > > > > > > > What if, as a public school teacher, you felt called (an > vocation), as > > in > > > > commanded by God, to be both a public school teacher and > evangelist. > > That > > > if > > > > you were not a public school teacher, and that if you did not read > from > > > the > > > > Bible during class, you would be going against God's will? > > > > > > > > > > Then you should be fired. > > > > > > > > > > H. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Nick McClure [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2002 1:40 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: Religious Freedom > > > > > > > > > > > > >So, if you are a teacher, or a mayor or other government > official, > are > > > you > > > > >not sinning if you do not use every opportunity to spread the > Gospel. > > As > > > a > > > > >teacher, aren't you commanded by God to spread the Gospel to your > > pupils? > > > > > > > > But as a teacher, you are paid to teach what the school system has > > > provided > > > > for you to teach, if you don't like it, go teach at a church > school. > > > > > > > > >This, of course, is an extreme position that is terribly > politically > > > > >incorrect, but I'm sort of playing the devil's advocate here. > > > > > > > > > >Isn't it a violation of your "free exercise" rights if you are > > prohibited > > > > >from preaching, praying and proselytizing no matter what your > position > > in > > > > >the government? > > > > > > > > No, as your position is voluntary, usually by both parties, you > are > > > allowed > > > > to leave, or be fired if you are not doing your job, and if your > job > > says > > > > don't teach religion in your class, then you can't. If you have a > > problem > > > > with this, find another job. > > > > > > > > >Another question: If the government makes a law that says, "Thou > shalt > > > not > > > > >pray in public," isn't the government showing a preference for > > > irreligion, > > > > >if not secular humanism. Even a secularist is taking a religious > > position > > > > >based on faith (it takes as much faith not to believe as to > believe). > > So, > > > > >when the government says, "no prayer," it's really "establishing > > > religion" > > > > >by establishing irreligion as the religion of choice for the > > government. > > > > >True or not? > > > > I would agree with that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. 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