But at what point will that matter? If they start blocking then there is
a problem. But I only see this as being an issue when the pipe is at or
near capacity. At which point don't the providers have a responsibility
to put some types of traffic above others?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> So that means that if I want to deliver VoIP services to subscribers
that
> use a last-mile controlled by you, I need to get in your high-priority
> queues. The only way I am going to get in your high-priority queues is
if
> I am going to pay you for it. And you funnel that money to your own
> services, such as VoIP. That means I am charged to be able to deliver
> VoIP, and you are subsidised to deliver VoIP.
> How exactly is anybody going to be able to compete with the party that
> owns the last mile?
> 
> 
> We have seen this before when baby-Bells where no longer required to
rent
> the local-loop to competitors on equal terms. No more competition on
OSI
> layer 1. Then when they were no longer required to deliver BitStream
on
> equal terms. No more competition on OSI layer 2. Soon they won't have
any
> competition anymore on OSI layer 3 and 4.
> At what layer will you get concerned? Layer 8? 9?
> 
> Jochem
> 


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