so what you are saying is ... we're becoming fascist, but we're stillless fascist that the rest of the world?
>If you really wanted to be taken seriously with a list like this, you might >try and actually score the U.S. and a bunch of other countries on these >criteria. I think you would find that China, Russia, most of the Middle >East, most of Africa, big chunks of Asia and most of Latin America fare far >worse than the U.S. > >On 6/3/06, Vivec wrote: >> >> >> [14 Defining Characteristics Of Fascism: >> >> 1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism > > >Not just of fascism, but of traditional nation-states in general. > >2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights > > >No. We have entire organizations dedicated to doing nothing but policing the >government for potential abuses. > >3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause > > >?? > >4. Supremacy of the Military > > >The military serves the civilian political authority. It is up to Congress >and the President to tell the military what to do, not the reverse. > >5. Rampant Sexism > > >Come on, that's just ludicrous. Sexism as a part of fascism? I would argue >that most of the world is more sexist than the U.S. > >6. Controlled Mass Media > > >What planet do you live on? The media does whatever it likes. Unfortunately >for Americans, that means lots of coverage of murdered blond teenage girls >and other sensationalist stories. > >7. Obsession with National Security > > >I don't remember anyone slamming a jet plane into a building in Trinidad, or >anywhere else for that matter. Maybe we're paranoid, maybe the world really >is out to get us. > >8. Religion and Government are Intertwined > > >Waxes and wanes by administration, but there is no official endorsement or >sponsorship of religion, even with the Bush Administration in office. Take a >look at any country in the Middle East. > >9. Corporate Power is Protected > > >How is a feature of capitalism part of fascism? Once again I think you are >mixing issues. > >10. Labor Power is Suppressed > > >Stop already, you are so confused. We have unions, but why join a union when >there is 4.6% unemployment and there are plenty of jobs in the market. >Unions have been in decline for decades. They served their purpose in the >early 20th century. > >11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts > > >Not true. We have a huge arts community in the U.S. We have lots of stuff >for intellectuals- newspapers, magazines, books. But we also have a true >market economy, and what ends up being popular is lowest-common denominator >fare like "American Idol". > >12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment > > >This one is somewhat true. I chalk that up to foolish "law and order" >Republican policies which fail to address deeper societal issues. > >13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption > > >Far less than other places, e.g. our neighbor to the south, Mexico, or >China, or India, or Russia. I could go on. > >14. Fraudulent Elections] > > >You read too many left-wing blogs. The Democrats want to whine about fraud >but it always seems to be heavily Democratic precincts where all the dead >people vote. > > >-- >--------------- >Robert Munn >www.funkymojo.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:5:208073 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
