we aren't looking at the value of a police car, it's attempted arson at best:
"and an apparent fire or smoke bomb was set under or near a police car. Advocates for Wolf dispute that the car sustained damage as a result of the protest. Prosecutors have proposed in court documents that the federal government has the right to subpoena Wolf's unedited footage in its attempt to determine if indictable federal offenses occurred, such as the attempted arson involving a patrol car. Although the San Francisco Police Department is a local agency, it receives funding from the federal government, a fact prosecutors said made it legitimate issue for a federal grand jury. " http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/news_in_brief/josh_wolf_jailed_060802.shtml On 8/2/06, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > What a police car was vandalized and your thinking it was a misdemeanor? > How do you figure? > > Anything over $500 is a felony in most states. That's not even to mention > the sedition charges that could be brought about from such actions. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2006 5:55 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Blogger or Journalist > > > > > > hmm it isn't that simple. I have only read the one story that Nick > posted, > > but the footage is of a demonstration, not simple vandalism. Apparently > a > > police car was damaged in the course of the demonstration and they want > to > > know if unaired portions of the tape point to who and how. I'd have to > see > > the guy's rationale to know what I think of this. > > > > If he wants to avoid setting a precedent I might agree with him. > > This is not > > a matter of say a murder that we know for sure happened. It's people who > > were exercising their right to free speech and perhaps some of them also > > committed a misdemeanour. If I weigh that out I come down in favor of > not > > setting a precedent. > > > > As for whether a blogger is a journalist, I think this is > > something that has > > not been worked out yet. It may depend on the blog. But regardless of > the > > blog, the guy sold some of the film to a local television station so in > my > > book that makes him a freelance journalist. > > > > > > On 8/2/06, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Keep in mind that Judy Miller spent several months in jail over > > the Plame > > > leak case. Personally, I don't think journalists should have blanket > > > protection where criminals acts are involved. This blogger's claim is > a > > > perfect example. What right of free speech protects him no turning > over > > > video evidence of a crime? Nothing. > > > > > > On 8/2/06, Nick wrote: > > > > > > > > OK, so here is a question, at what point does a person with a blog > > > become > > > > a > > > > journalist? > > > > > > > > A blogger was sent to prison today for failing to turn over a > > video that > > > > prosecutors claim has footage of a group of people > > vandalizing a police > > > > car. > > > > He is claiming that he is a journalist and has the right to keep > some > > > > information private. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://news.com.com/Blogger+jailed+after+defying+court+orders/2100-1028_3-61 > > > 01187.html > > > > > > Two things, first, this may contain footage of a crime that occurred > in > > a > > > public place, even if the guy were a journalist, should it still be > > > protected? Is this equal to not revealing a source? > > > > > > 2nd, Can a person that has a day job, that writes a blog be considered > a > > > journalist? What is a journalist? > > > > > > > > -- > > --------------- > > Robert Munn > > www.funkymojo.com > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:212344 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
