Ok, I really didn't want to get into this, but you really need to go
away. Of course, it's your right to hang out and bash people you don't
even know and be belligerent to the people on this list when they have
not even come close to your contempt. Your actions on this list are that
of a very immature human being that is incapable of having an
open-minded philosophical debate on the state of MM. There's no question
that MM had a bad 4Q, but that doesn't mean they're going away. Many
companies have bad quarters, especially the last year or so. I think I
can speak for the rest of this list when I say that we're 100% behind MM
and the great products they provide, and work very hard at developing,
for the developer community. I personally thank Matt Brown, Ben Forta,
Michael Dinowitz, et al for their insight and great contribution to the
community. They truly make the cf developer community what it is today.

And that's all I have to say about that...

Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Forbes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:02 AM
To: CF-Community
Subject: New One: Death of Macromedia


Maureen, have you figured out yet what dissing means? I've used all the 
on-line feminist dictionaries I can find, but no luck. I guess it must 
still be a highly classified thing that you do with your body, or body 
parts. Don't send any pics - PLEASE.

Now that I have positioned myself in the proper hall (CF-Community) I
shall 
lay out a scenario that should make some of you ponder just a bit.

MM is loosing millions a week - and it has over 1,000 employees. What's
the 
fastest way to reduce your overhead? No - not Dissing. Laying off.

One more point to ponder, too bad Childress missed his date. I predict, 
with double precision, that Adobe will swallow - willing or not - most
of 
MM. This will be most apt to occur in 2003.

There you have it. I stepped on no ones toes or egos (thankfully) and
yet 
have left the "girls" something to talk about during their cigarette
breaks.

And above all - remember this. No matter how much you may know about 
programming and bashing, you do not know what is in the head of the guy 
several layers above you. If you did, no one would have lost thousands
on 
the Allaire disaster. Now you are MM's - the same axiom will apply here 
too. NONE of you know what is in the top heads of Adobe and MM right
now. 
One thing is for certain, you can not continue working on a million
dollar 
a day loss.

Erica with 2 last names - I trust you have finally stopped rolling on
your 
floor - or is it Ladie's Nite down at the old coral?

My pre-discussion test regarding MSF - forget it - it is a BAD fit.

I have learned lots about the insides of many of you. I have subscribed
on 
and off since about 1996 to the CF-Talk board - I know you will not miss
me 
here.

Don't forget, buy Adobe on the lows!


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