Where in that bill did it indicate that the military could hold people indefinately? I must have missed that one. The bill gave the authority to the military to convene military tribunals for non-citizen enemy combatants. Sounds to me like they are saying that these people will get trials though the military justice system. When laws are broken inside the country, then trials at the state/federal level take place. This is true for both citizens and non-citizens. When the rules of war are broken, they are handled by military tribunal. And now military tribunals are authorized to handle enemy combatants.
Your provacative language here really cracks me up Gruss. I think that is by far the funniest part of your posts in general. Here are some rules of thumb for you to take home... 1) When in a foreign country, best not to try and raise arms against our deployed troops in the region when not your not part of a recognized uniformed fighting force (this makes you an enemy combatant). 2) When you are a non-citizen guest in this country, try obeying our laws. It's just a nice thing to do. 3) Understand that another's power to dominate you is mostly out of your control, especially if she's really cute. -----Original Message----- From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 7:21 AM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Republicans Suspend Habeas Corpus > Garze wrote: > Constitutional responsibilities do not equal laws and rights. Reading > your response, the quotes you've provided actually make my case. > First, it's shocking that any American would make your argument. You're actually willing to trust government to hold people indefinitely, but to always get it right. Because there's no such thing as government error or abuse of power, right? You must not have been a congressional page. Second, the problem is in *proving* you're an American. It's hard to do that from a waterboard. The piece you're missing, besides the moral responsibility part, is that if you can't prove your citizenship you have ZERO RIGHTS. That means the government could hold you forever and you have no recourse. And let's say they did hold you, and tortured you. And then we took pity on you and lobbied for your release. The government would have to release you, but they'd owe you nothing and you'd have no recourse against them. Put another way, possession is 9/10ths of the law. Here are some rules of thumb for you: 1.) Give government nothing. 2.) Anything you give government will be used against you. 3.) Those who willingly give others the power to dominate them are fools and your enemy.* *Note - the exception to this rule is marriage. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:217487 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
