Did you see McCain's thoughts on this matter? It's hard to dismiss his
opinion, considering he was TORTURED HIMSELF.

He's against any law that sanctions torture....and I agree with him. He also
believes, that in certain extreme cases, it may be necessary for a president
to expressly break that law in order to save lives. He thinks that this case
is so rare, and so extreme, that it should require a president to break a
law in order to do it. Putting in a loophole that makes torture legal makes
taking this step way too easy...and it shouldn't be.

I agree with him.

On 10/17/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Nick wrote:
> > OK, i don't see how any of those in any way apply.
> >
>
> So here's the deal.  Presuming the US is in Iraq as a guest of Iraq,
> then most if not all of those attacking US forces would fall under the
> jurisdiction of Iraqi law.  If the person in question is not Iraqi,
> then they'd need to be charged in one of 4 ways:
>
> 1.) By their country of origin.
> 2.) By Iraq.
> 3.) By an international court set up for such a purpose.
> 4.) By a US military court.
>
> Typically international treaties dictate how things are handled.  For
> example, if I'm smoking doobies in France, France can release me to US
> custody where I could also be charged.
>
> Note that not one of those options is:
>
> a.) Throw them in jail forever with no recourse.
> b.) Torture them.
>
> As a society, we have to decide if it's best for us to live under a
> legal structure (both domestic and foreign) that respects the rights
> of the citizen over the desires of the government.
>
> Mr Bush is asserting the rights of government over the rights of
> citizens.  He's telling the rest of the World that our Constitution is
> not a universal template for national governance, but merely a
> document that's more a rule of thumb; to be cast aside when it's no
> longer convenient.
>
> Further he's telling us that, as citizens, we should trust him with
> the sole discretion to decide a person's imprisonment and judgement.
> And that he can do anything to someone as long as it doesn't directly
> cause organ failure or death.
>
> For those of us that value freedom, these are not things we want our
> government aspiring to.
>
> 

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