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On 11/8/06, G Money <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 11/8/06, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > The good news is that we'll see change in Iraq.  I've heard the new
> > slogan is "Truth, Accountability, Progress".  We'll see.  That being
> > said that's no more a strategy than, "we're going to fight, and we're
> > going to win."
>
>
> How do you see a change coming in Iraq when the executors of the war all
> remain in place? Congress can only bitch and moan and call meetings, but
> beyond that, their only real power would be to withhold the necessary funds,
> which is something they simply won't do, lest they be seen as abandoning our
> troops.
>
> So we'll see if the Dems can best Bush by actually defining a
> > strategy, executing, and measuring and adjusting rather than repeating
> > slogans.
>
>
> So congress will issues some strong statements against the war....Bush will
> smirk and continue unabated. I still don't see change.
>
> As for liberal vs. conservative, last night proved those terms are now
> > meaningless.  Here are the questions you should ask yourself and
> > others:
>
>
> They aren't meaningless, they've just shifted definitions. I stated a while
> ago that I believe they've shifted to define what a person believes on
> social matters. To that end, I really believe that last night's vote was a
> reproach to the rise in social conservatism and religious indoctrination in
> this country.
>
> Maybe that's just wishful thinking. I guess the only thing I can say with
> certainty is that MY vote was directly intended as a vote against the
> religious and socially conservative right.
>
> 1.) Do you believe the government is always the best tool to use to
> > solve social problems?
>
>
> This used to designate "liberals", back when that term applied to
> governance. Now it implies "conservatives", as it applies to moral
> applications written into law.
>
> Hence the shift.
>
> 2.) Do you believe the liberty of the individual is the highest moral
> > government should advocate or do you believe that government should
> > define and enforce its own morality?
>
>
> See 1.
>
> The first question determines your fiscal polarity and the second your
> > social polarity.
>
>
> Perhaps, in very simple terms.
>
> --
> Anarchist reactionary running dog revisionist
> Hindu muslim catholic creation / evolutionist
> Rational romantic mystic cynical idealist
> Minimal expressionist post-modern neo-symbolist
>
>
> 

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