The thing that I am most uncomfortable with is you (and others defending the police actions as seen on the recording) seem to be saying that it is alright for police to assume someone is guilty of something and then begin applying punishment for the 'crime' as they see fit. "The kid won't show his ID. He is obviously guilty of .. something. Apply punishment." I think this is what a lot of it comes down to. The police were not keeping the peace. The police took a tool that is designed incapacitate someone, as an alternative to shooting them in self defense, and used it in a punitive fashion instead. They were not detaining him with it. They were punishing him with it. I don't know how much clearer it can be. They seemed more concerned with teaching him a lesson than simply picking him up, tossing him in the back of the car and driving off before any of them caused a minor riot. You don't have a problem with this? With your comments suggesting "The little bastard deserved it.", I suppose not. Perhaps I am misunderstanding, but you seem to be leaning more towards the 'martial law' you are complaining about .. "There will be a 11 PM curfew at the library. Violators will be tazerd on sight."
I am not defending the kid. I think the kid was being an ass and trying to put on a show, as you said. Both he and the police handled the situation .. poorly. The police simply crossed the line. Also, please, quit trying to drag this down into an issue of politics. You may dislike the kid for his apparent political leanings and want to see him get his hippy, liberal ass kicked for expressing them in a very poor and ill-timed way, but politics has little else to do with this. On a side, I was just thinking yesterday that I remember when this list was about almost everything but politics. It's now what every other posting is about and it annoys the heck out of me. Where did all of the love go? *sniff* I demand muffins and sweaters. And puppies. And sweater-puppies. Oh, and kittens. Maybe even a horse or two. Leave the frying pans at the door, though. PT ----- Nuking the politics for a better last 5 years. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Stroz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:10 AM Subject: Re: more civil rights goodness > Nothing you can say can convince me that this schmuck is a 'victim'. It > belittles the term when we throw it around so freely. He was being > belligerent, and probably trying to show off for some of his liberal friends > and fighting the 'system'. > > I think its safe to assume that someone who is in place they should not be, > and refusing to show ID, is probably doing something they should not be > doing. > > Once again, don't criticize until or unless you have walked a mile in their > shoes. In today's society, being a police officer is probably one of the > most difficult jobs in this country. Between the liberals, who seem to want > no police force, and the conservatives, who seem to want martial law, it > must be extremely difficult to make a decision knowing you will get > criticized by one side or the other. > > -- > Scott Stroz ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:221333 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
