On 2/1/07, Denshtizzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm biased. I like it, 'specially with you, Sam! I especially like how I'm > not unpatriotic anymore when I bitch about the prez. That got to me
I hear many people on the left crying about being called unpatriotic if they don't support the war or the president yet I've never seen these comments. I know when a politician goes to another country and claims the US is an International Pariah he might be called unpatriotic but I don't think you did that. > too. You were never unpatriotic if you bitched about Clinton, neh? > Why is that, Sambo? Why did his private life get pulled into the spot > light? He must have been, like, the first president to pull a stunt... bah. If anyone in a position of authority exposes him self and demands sex form an underling I sure as hell want to know if it's true and whether this person should be removed form that position > But Bush Jr. does all this highly suspect stuff-- don't forget the whole > energy commission thing, or whatever-- have they released who was > on that board yet? Oh, was that Cheney? Whatever. They're all quite I don't see a problem with talking to industry insiders before forming an opinion. > oh. I didn't know you meant terrorists, and doing it on purpose, you know. > I was just saying that we are nice people who blow up kids and stuff. There's a big difference between collateral damage and intended target. > There's a funny saying in the scientific community about proof. =] A lot of people get caught red handed and can't dispute the guilt and even confess. Then there's the ones that swear they're innocent and one guy says he's pretty sure they saw them, My Cousin Vinny type of guilty. > The other charts seemed to have more interesting data. Eh. Not sure what it all means :) > > What part of that is a lie? > I don't remember. The number, I guess. That was from factcheck. The numbers are right on. Some nice reading here: http://www.investors.com/editorial/editorialcontent.asp?secid=1501&status=article&id=255139775271860 > > Actual Bush quote: "We do not monitor calls from America, we monitor calls > > > coming in from foreign countries and vice versa." > > > ^--- not really a lie, I guess. This sentence is false. > > Source please. > What does it matter? I picked it because it was funny, and I'm biased, > but the idea is what bugs me. He said he talked to his lawyer and since > his lawyer said it was o.k. he is in the clear. Guess it's not a lie, per > se- > he might not really know how it works, I guess. Skipped 5th grade perhaps. Because he never said it. Those blogs aren't always correct :) > > I guess you weren't following along. Did you ever wonder why the press > > stopped talking about it? It's not because the NY Times loves Bush. > > > What? The press talking about something makes it, what, true? Or not No, the NY Times wants to nail Bush and will run with it every day until everyone else points out it's not a story. > talking, as the case may be. I mean, didn't I post a rant about Usama's > family getting flown out, yet nobody covered it? I hear it from Moore > first!?!? > Perhaps we're alternating between claps and silence, as liberty flies... Because it wasn't true, at least not Moore's version. They flew out three days later when the ban was lifted. Richard Clark said he approved the flight and told Moore. He even called Moore a liar. > We use computers, mostly, but yeah. Every phone call from everywhere. > Everywhere we can get our hands on. Of course! You must know that. > Justification is an interesting thing. Whoops. ??? > You have faith that gman is good? I think the whole reason we have > checks and balances is because we acknowledged that we inherently > don't know good from bad. Or power corrupts. Or with power comes > responsibility, and it's sorta that "let's all three throw the switch at > once > so none of us actually knows who kilt 'em", hehe. > I like the idea of more than a single point of failure, or whathaveyou. :-/ The people that listen to your phone now through court ordered wiretaps can blackmail your grandmother. What's different? > That, and spying on people used to be considered bad. Was ever a war won without spying? > I disagree. Of course, I've always been interested in the phone company, > and communication, and whatnot. I bet you think ICKYLON is BS, neh? I don't know what that means. > People don't need oversight because they're inherently good? I guess it > makes sense from a certain viewpoint. I too think most people are pretty > darn good, ya know? Most the time. neh? Mommy can I trust the gub? Oversight hasn't gone away. > It's the same thing, neh? You're worried about the IRS calling you because > of your taxes, I'm worried about the FBI calling me because I bash the prez. The IRS audited nearly every Clinton critic. Don't forget they had 900 FBI files on republicans. FBI doesn't care if you bash the pres; half the country is doing it. Just don't threaten him. > You do know that there are terrorists subscribed to a list, that is > subscribed > to a list, that has a member who's subscribed to this list, right? That > alone > justifies the tap, and luckily, they don't even have to ask anyone anymore. This is public forum so everything you type is googlable. > Woot woot! Heck, he was in Back to the Future, so I guess he's cool. A slave to Hollywood I see. > I guess I coulda swore we were in the black and bush2 messed it up > so quick he made the Onion look prophetic. Bush2 dug into stuff pretty > quick, IIRC. What does Clinton digging into SS have to do with bush2 > increasing spending while cutting taxes? Imagine where we could be, > compared to where we are. Raiding the SS fund is why we're in such a hole. You can shift paper around and say everything is fine now, but years later SS is still broke. Read the www.investors.com article to get an idea of where we could be. > Like the pharmasootical companies. And the energy stuff. Give me a > break, I've never seen more "good old boy" type behavior in my life. > 'cept that time with the aids and the hemophiliacs or whatever. Dispicable! > The GOP doesn't seem to have done too much for the little guy. Oh, > wait, there was that tax cut! Clinton did more favors for Enron t hen this admin. Drugs save lives, I know they're not perfect buy you're using a wide brush to claim corruption. What about the lawyers and the unions on the other side of the aisle? Most Dems get their money through corporations while most GOPers get money from individuals. You need to re-evaluate that old stereotype. As for Aids research, who gave the most money? > What's the deficit at again? It doesn't fit on that Death and Taxes > poster so it's hard to really imagine it. http://thebudgetgraph.com/view/ $200 billion. WASHINGTON: The U.S. Congressional Budget Office projects the national budget deficit to shrink again this year and says it could actually swing into a surplus by 2012 but only if President George W. Bush's tax cuts expire in 2010. http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/01/25/business/deficit.php > Anyways, Sam, these guys are knuckleheads. At a time when > we really needed to be united, the Cheney&Co are duking it out > with the CIA?!?! The CIA screwed up and tried to make the administration look bad. > And tell me again why, even if Saddam had been > packing WMDs, he was an "immediate threat"? 13 years is not immediate. > Meanwhile, fishermen are selling nuckle-lear material... > and that takes us back to global warming. Somehow. Global warming is a socialist scam. 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