> Russ wrote:
> >I wonder how well that worked for people who thought a similar thing about 
> >New York?
> >
> My only concern with them is that they be killed before they try to kill me.

This is how you know Iraq is lost: when the only solution left is to
kill everyone or leave.  Which is what I"ve been saying for months.

Unfortunately we can't do as you suggest if only because the
"insurgents" aren't local.  Destroy a neighborhood in Baghdad and
you'll probably kill 1 insurgent while created 10,000 or 10,000,000
more.

It's over.  It's lost.  Face it.  Bush led us into a box canyon and we
either fight our way out the way we came or die.

BTW - Remember the Japanese in the Philippines?  Guess who the father
of modern American Special Forces is?  The guy that beat them.

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In May 1942, "General" Fertig decided to continue the fight [after
surrender to the Japanese]

Over the next two and a half years, Fertig created and commanded the
"United States Forces in the Philippines" (USFIP), recruiting escaped
POWS, Filipino natives, rival guerrilla groups, and soldiers who had
refused to surrender.

>From humble beginnings, USFIP became one of the best equipped and
effective irregular units operating in World War II. In fact, when the
submarine USS Narwhal went to Mindanao in 1944 to deliver supplies,
they were met by the uniformed band of USFIP playing "Stars and
Stripes Forever". In 1945, Fertig's forces participated in the Battle
of Mindanao that effectively ended organized Japanese resistance in
the region.

Some military scholars are of the opinion that the failure of the
military to promote Fertig to the rank of General was a travesty
perpetuated by MacArthur's staff.[citation needed] Through his efforts
in establishing USFIP, Fertig ended up by 1944 commanding a force
totalling approximately 38,000 effectives[1] (the equivalent of an
Army Corps).

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For more info read WEB Griffin's excellent book "Behind The Lines".  I
read the whole series - great books.

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