haha....nope, just a realist.

-----Original Message-----
From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 18 February 2002 21:19
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee


Actually Will, i would think if you think every state has ulterior motives
for everything it does, then you are a paranoid conspiracy theorist.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Will Swain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2002 1:52 AM
Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee


> the US, just like any state, always has ulterior motives. Thats what
> politics is all about. you are naive if you think thats not the case.
>
> will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 18 February 2002 01:25
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: jihad for kids .. wheeee
>
>
> so its not legitimate for the us to attempt to protect its citizens?  The
US
> must have ulterior motives?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Angel Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2002 3:49 PM
> Subject: RE: jihad for kids .. wheeee
>
>
> > *sigh*
> >
> > Well that's not what I meant.
> >
> > ["How would the United States have gotten worldwide sympathy and support
> > for a move like that otherwise?
> >
> > How would they get worldwide support to oust Saddam Hussein so long
> > after Desert Storm unless under the asupices of the "War On Terror"?
> >
> > How could Ashcroft, Lieberman and their cronies say that "Americans must
> > finally realise that their freedoms need to be restricted after the
> > events of September 11th..." with impunity and finally pass laws that
> > were struck down repeatedly when they came up for review in the past if
> > not under the umbrella of new "Homeland Security"?]
> >
> > There is a side to this whole thing that is simply politicians taking
> > advantage of the oppurtunities presented by September 11th.
> >
> > Oh..and to educate you a little further on how Afghanistan relates to
> > oil, check this link:
> >
> > http://www.eia.doe.gov/cabs/afghan.html
> >
> > "Afghanistan's significance from an energy standpoint stems from its
> > geographical position as a potential transit route for oil and natural
> > gas exports from Central Asia to the Arabian Sea.  This potential
> > includes the possible construction of oil and natural gas export
> > pipelines through Afghanistan, which was under serious consideration in
> > the mid-1990s.  The idea has since been undermined by Afghanistan's
> > instability.  Since 1996, most of Afghanistan has been controlled by the
> > Taliban movement, which the United States does not recognize as the
> > government of Afghanistan. "
> >
> > But forget about all that..*gestures*...keep believing in the altruism
> > of the United States and its government.
> > Sooner or later the truth, which may be good or bad depending on which
> > side of the fence you're sitting on, will hit you in the face. Maybe
> > when you get jailed for vaguely resembling John Walker whilst trying to
> > get onboard a plane.
> > *smirk*
> >
> > *yawn*
> > G'night.
> >
> > -Gel
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >
> > Since Afghanistan has no oil reserves, how could this even have played a
> > factor?
> >
> > Unless you care to retract your defense of Will's original statement,
> > which Beth criticized, and you criticized Beth's criticism, I don't
> > believe that you can logically accuse me of misunderstanding or
> > misconstruing what you said.  It's pretty darn clear what you said.
> >
> > H.
> >
>
>

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