> The point being that the "self esteem society" that educators seem to
> push these days has created arrogant morons: kids who's self esteem is
> derived from others telling them they're great rather than flowing
> from achievement in a competitive environment.
>
> That, of course, is bad news for the country as a whole.

You ought to see some of the people that I had in my classroom at ITT.
 I'm trying to explain programming or database concepts to students
that think they're going to be programmers or network people and they
just roll their eyes and verbalize questions like "I'm going to be
working with networks, not databases."

This reflects in a LOT of work ethics as well.

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