Does this crap on the CNN homepage not piss off anyone else? Iran's president "pardoned" the soldiers.. oh come on!!! This is pathetic!
On 4/3/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not to mention that where do you think the battalion policies came > from? The manual are a starting point used to create additional SOPs. > So you drove TOP around, therefore you were privy to the same scoop as > TOP and the brass. How many people in a battalion? How many of those > people are not privy to that info until just before they move out. MOST > are not privy to the data before they are getting ready to use it. How > many times did you learn of something 12 - 24 hours a ahead of time then > go out were you risked being captured? How many times were you aware of > a future event while being in a situation that you were likely to be > taken prisoner? MOST are only aware of the details of their current > operation, not the operation for tomorrow or the day after. > > Again, I just thought it interesting that according to this guy they > weren't asking most guys to play superman and get tortured over intel of > questionable valuable. If you knew something beyond the norm I would > imagine your commander would like it if you tried to hold back that > info, but be more than willing to tell them the mundane crap. Do you > really think its a surprise to anyone the number of units in country, a > camp etc.. > > The fact that a platoon of 12 guys is going to attack the bad guy > headquarters at 0600, coming in from the bushes to the right with 3 guys > on the front door and 3 guys at the back door with 2 guys each in 3 in > gun positions here, here and here. > > Well, golly Wally, that might be a different scenario, and your buddies > might appreciate you trying to keep that info to yourself. > > > Heald, Timothy J wrote: > > By the time I was an E-3 I had not only read it but owned a copy, as > > well as 7-8, Ranger Handbook, the operational symbols one, Airborne > > Operations, Air Assault Operations, and that's not to mention the 100 or > > so correspondence courses I took. > > > > This is one of the big reasons I hate it when people want to get down on > > infantryman. It is not easy to be a grunt and the depth and breadth of > > knowledge needed to do it successfully is incredible. Memorize the five > > line op order, call for fire, 9 line medivac, movement techniques, all > > the other skill level 1,2 and 3 tasks (chemical nuclear and biological > > warfare stuff, weapons stuff, uniform stuff) also the legal side, > > conventions and treaties I mean the list of crap you have to learn goes > > on and on. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Russel Madere [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2007 2:51 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: UK's troops being seized.. > > > > What Private has read that manual? I was talking about the practical, > > tactical intel a Private knows. That is stuff the bad guys could really > > use. When I was driving I got regular movement briefings for the entire > > battalion with Top. He needed the information, so by extension I needed > > it too. > > > > I might not have remembered it all, but it would have been useful for > > the enemy to know that the battalion would start moving north on Hwy 1 > > from Hwy 190 to new firing points at 0500 hrs on April 4, 2007. I > > usually got that sort of information 12 to 24 hours before the actual > > movement order was issued. In this case the standard tactical SOP was > > for the advanced party to move out along the same basic route 60 to 90 > > minutes prior to the movement. > > > > Putting the 2 pieces together would allow the enemy to find the advanced > > party and ambush the batteries as they moved into the new firing points. > > > > > >> Standard tactical stuff is meaningless. How much of that is standard > >> SOP stuff in books that anyone can buy at Amazon or Ebay? > >> > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:231977 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
