Aren't they saying that the person in question is trying to pass as being of a 
different culture? Tho I am not sure you need to speak a certain way or listen 
to a certain type of music to be "black." 

Unlike Tony, I do think that American blacks have a culture, which has given us 
blues, jazz, Langston Hughes and Tupac Shapur to name a few contributions that 
come to mind. I don't think you need to go to Africa to find a culture that is 
black, and because of slavery most American blacks cannot identify a certain 
country their ancestors are from. So you get people like Oprah Winfrey getting 
blood tests to find out what they can. 

To my mind it feels a little racist for one black to say that an educated black 
does not sound black, or that real blacks don't write poetry (or play golf for 
that matter) but I think that's his own culture he is putting down. Or maybe 
this is the equivalent of an Irish-American saying you aren't a proper Irishman 
if you don't take a drop every now and again -- not sure. Maybe it's an issue 
of all the subcultures blurring together for people who can't be bothered to 
see the difference?

  
> I think you are wrong, Mary Jo.
> 
> It is racist in the other direction, too.
> 
> You are saying there are no cultural similarities for whites?
> Or are you saying those cultural similarities are inclusive, and not
> exclusively white?
> 
> Why, then, is it often a putdown for blacks to say to another "you
> sound white", or "you are white"? The very argument you are saying is
> being made against Obama? That he is culturally too "white" for some?
> 
> Either there is a cultural identity to being white, just as there is
> to being black, or all of the people you mentioned are glaring
> hypocrites.
> 
> Which is it?
> 
> 
> On 4/11/07, Mary Jo Sminkey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Just had to reply to this, because it is just SOOO wrong. The reason 
> it is different to say this is that being black has a cultural, racial 
> identity with it. It's not just about skin color. Just saying you are 
> white is not a cultural identity. If however, you said I'm Irish, and 
> proud of it, no one would object. Nor would they object if you were 
> proud to be Hispanic....or for that matter, proud to be an American. 
> But saying you are proud to be white is saying you are proud of your 
> skin color at the exclusion of all else...and THAT indeed is racist.
> >
> > This is also why there is some objection in the African-American 
> community to Obama. He may be black in terms of skin color, but he 
> does not share the same cultural identity that blacks borne in this 
> country do.

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